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[Wouter]

Max didn't say when his daughter was born. Everyone assumed yesterday May 1.

Last Sunday April 27 someone posted this and Max confirmed it today:




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according to Monaghan this is the planned floor upgrade, nothing more to come

https://x.com/JunaidSamodien_/status/19 ... 6061609007

I still expect lots more for imola

[AR3-GP]

according to Monaghan this is the planned floor upgrade, nothing more to come

https://x.com/JunaidSamodien_/status/19 ... 6061609007

I still expect lots more for imola

I do not.

[f1isgood]

I think there will be at most some changes to the rear brake stuff like McLaren did. They are not going to make a whole new floor for Imola (would just be stupid to then have brought something to Miami even for test purposes). Doubt the wings will change -- maybe they might go the V-shape like others in the rear. Don't see much scope for any change with the top surface of the car.

[venkyhere]

Max'car looked the best of the lot through S1, its changing direction like a housefly, Whatever this new floor is, its definitely improved high-speed performance even more. Pouhon in Spa will be a delight to watch.

[Sergej]

according to Monaghan this is the planned floor upgrade, nothing more to come

https://x.com/JunaidSamodien_/status/19 ... 6061609007

I still expect lots more for imola

Yeah me too (maybe not "a lot" but still something), what I meant is that it seems nothing more floor wise.

[Cs98]

Idk if it's drag or the Honda engine but the RB doesn't pull hard enough anymore. They're losing out like 5 kph vs the Mercedes engined cars with DRS closed. Was an issue in SA as well.

[AR3-GP]

I think Red Bull will be quicker in S1, potentially on par with Mclaren in S2. They are not bad in T1 or that slow speed complex of S2 (T11 -> T15). No time is lost. It's only from exit of T16 where the time is lost down the straights. They need to improve T16 as visually the car seems to lose grip at the apex which leads to a wide line at the exit and unable to return to power as quickly.

[AR3-GP]

Teams are generally reluctant to bring substantial floor changes to a sprint weekend, with just one practice session to calibrate any new parts. But according to chief engineer Paul Monaghan, the new floor – which includes reprofiled fences and edges – retains a similar balance profile, which means it is just a case of adding extra aerodynamic load to the car without risking upsetting the stability of its car.

The team has stated in its pre-event technical notes that its new floor fences should "extract a small increase in load for the same flow stability". Further optimisation of the floor has extended to its floor edge wing, which now features greater wing curvature to extract more downforce.

Red Bull's spread-out upgrade plan, which will likely also see new parts introduced in Imola and Barcelona later this month, should partly address some of the balance issues that left it completely adrift on a hot and abrasive circuit like Bahrain, where sixth-placed Verstappen shipped over half a minute to McLaren's race winne

Unlocking better through-corner balance should help its drivers stop the RB21 from sliding its rear tyres, which is likely a key to McLaren's much better tyre management.

"If you slide around, your rear tyres are probably going to get a bit too warm. But yes, we've made some steps, and we'll continue to make steps," Monaghan explained. "All the complaints we had out of Bahrain, we've addressed some. Have we done it wholly? Probably not. Will we continue? Yes.

"It won't be a turnkey solution. It's going to be incremental improvements on the car. We understand what's happened, but actually affecting a cure is not that straightforward. It may never disappear from the car.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/what ... 0McLaren's

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According to Autoracer Monaghan is quoted as saying the floor change is small, amongst other information most of which is covered in the Motorsport post

Paul Monaghan explained that "the floor has not changed much underneath and should provide a little more load"

https://autoracer.it/it/red-bull-svilup ... verstappen

It's reasonably stable. We can bring it at relatively low risk at a sprint race because in our judgement the flow stability is unchanged," Monaghan said ahead of FP1, in which Verstappen took third. "We're not fearing it to be aerodynamically unstable or anything of that nature. It can go on and it will give us a few kilos of load, and we shall enjoy the benefits."

[f1isgood]

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I think Red Bull will be quicker in S1, potentially on par with Mclaren in S2. They are not bad in T1 or that slow speed complex of S2 (T11 -> T15). No time is lost. It's only from exit of T16 where the time is lost down the straights. They need to improve T16 as visually the car seems to lose grip at the apex which leads to a wide line at the exit and unable to return to power as quickly.

It feels like we have no tires for S3. McLaren have tires the whole lap.

[f1isgood]

Idk if it's drag or the Honda engine but the RB doesn't pull hard enough anymore. They're losing out like 5 kph vs the Mercedes engined cars with DRS closed. Was an issue in SA as well.

Was just seeing SA race traces at F1-tempo and you are spot on. Merc are so much more quicker even in race trim on the straights than Red Bull. Russell visibly loses in the high speed corners.

[AR3-GP]

Has the good doctor spoken?

[euv2]

Idk if it's drag or the Honda engine but the RB doesn't pull hard enough anymore. They're losing out like 5 kph vs the Mercedes engined cars with DRS closed. Was an issue in SA as well.

I have only seen the deficit in races, in qualy the Honda engine does keep up but yeah, I do think the Merc is the better engine now. We'll see if the trend of the Honda PU not reaching peak performance in race holds up here, 2 long straights should give us good insights.

[euv2]

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I think Red Bull will be quicker in S1, potentially on par with Mclaren in S2. They are not bad in T1 or that slow speed complex of S2 (T11 -> T15). No time is lost. It's only from exit of T16 where the time is lost down the straights. They need to improve T16 as visually the car seems to lose grip at the apex which leads to a wide line at the exit and unable to return to power as quickly.

Yes, Max has been consistently the fastest in turns 5 and 6, so I expect him to be the fastest in sector 1, sector 2 will probably be MCL but will be important for Max to stay close, as for T16 it's hard to say if its tire related or balance related but huge deficit so far.

Still don't think we have the outright pace to challenge MCL, Lec is also looking competitive this weekend, will be tight in qualifying.