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wiktor977 wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:09
TLof wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:01
Why are they waiting to switch to the slicks for so long? Do they have not the data from Stroll? I swear this team is incompetent or doing it on purpose. He was 4.4 behind Stroll and would have finished behind him
They had data from Tsunoda, Hamilton before that. Looks like they just don't care or they were waiting for someone to crash
Alo was in the points, the front runners only pitted cause of the safety car(caused by Alo and Sainz).
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diffuser wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:10
RedNEO wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:06
Aston Martin screwed Alonso! And then to compound issues with the extremely late pitstop that even helped stroll jump him Lawson takes him out after Alonso salvages a pass for the last point. Feel bad for Alonso for being the only one to do his job properly.
If Alo would have stayed out one more lap, they could have changed under the yellow from Sainz. Just unlucky.
Tbh they put themselves in that situation by pitting Alonso that late

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Isn't Chris Cronin, Alonso's former engineer, the head of race strategy now? How did he mess this one up so badly?

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For whatever reason,they are sabotaging Alonso, clearly

https://x.com/nachez98/status/191871350 ... mpKFjEY7lQ

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I guess Alonso will need a good effort to not scorch Lawson in post race interview.

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Pace wasn't terrible.
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TyreSlip wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:13
Isn't Chris Cronin, Alonso's former engineer, the head of race strategy now? How did he mess this one up so badly?
It's not as easy a decision as you think, early on if they would have pitted, they would have gone to last. if the other cars don't pit you need to pass 10 cars to get back to where you are.

A pit stop is 20 seconds ...you need to make up that time in 10 laps or fewer.
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that guy lawson is joke and behaves like WC winner. alonso should fix him had few other instances as well

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Sedaxel wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:14
I guess Alonso will need a good effort to not scorch Lawson in post race interview.
Good luck to Lawson, last year was already spicy

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diffuser wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:13
wiktor977 wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:09
TLof wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:01
Why are they waiting to switch to the slicks for so long? Do they have not the data from Stroll? I swear this team is incompetent or doing it on purpose. He was 4.4 behind Stroll and would have finished behind him
They had data from Tsunoda, Hamilton before that. Looks like they just don't care or they were waiting for someone to crash
Alo was in the points, the front runners only pitted cause of the safety car(caused by Alo and Sainz).
Not Hamilton, Albon, Verstappen, Piastri, Antonelli, Russel

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diffuser wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:17
TyreSlip wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:13
Isn't Chris Cronin, Alonso's former engineer, the head of race strategy now? How did he mess this one up so badly?
It's not as easy a decision as you think, early on if they would have pitted, they would have gone to last. if the other cars don't pit you need to pass 10 cars to get back to where you are.

A pit stop is 20 seconds ...you need to make up that time in 10 laps or fewer.
They should have pitted one lap after Stroll, it was the obvious choice at that point.

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Just went onboard of ALO of last few laps, He personally wanted to stop even before TSU and kept saying same opinion till he was pitted finally.

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vas_04614 wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:21
Just went onboard of ALO of last few laps, He personally wanted to stop even before TSU and kept saying same opinion till he was pitted finally.
Unbelievable! I knew it as soon as I saw them pit stroll first like, why do it that way round?when you can gain more with pitting Alonso first. Made no sense whatsoever!

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vas_04614 wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:21
Just went onboard of ALO of last few laps, He personally wanted to stop even before TSU and kept saying same opinion till he was pitted finally.
Sabotage, and its clear

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diffuser wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:17
TyreSlip wrote:
03 May 2025, 19:13
Isn't Chris Cronin, Alonso's former engineer, the head of race strategy now? How did he mess this one up so badly?
It's not as easy a decision as you think, early on if they would have pitted, they would have gone to last. if the other cars don't pit you need to pass 10 cars to get back to where you are.

A pit stop is 20 seconds ...you need to make up that time in 10 laps or fewer.
Hamilton was immediately 3 seconds faster on slicks, and the track was quickly getting faster. Alonso even asked to pit and was denied. It was not a hard decision.