2025 Miami Grand Prix - Miami USA, May 02-04

[Ken27]

Bearman made a lot of progress to get a point.

Does he live in the UK? Doesn't sound like a British accent.

I watched him speak in an interview during last GP and thought the same. Can't quite place his accent

[mwillems]

I feel for Kimi today, I like the kid, really talented.

Crazy performance from RB. Max a hair from being out of his box and then the release.

[Matt2725]

Bearman made a lot of progress to get a point.

Does he live in the UK? Doesn't sound like a British accent.

I watched him speak in an interview during last GP and thought the same. Can't quite place his accent

He's spent much of his childhood in Italy as I understand it.

[TimW]

Finally they are giving a time penalty for an unsafe release instead of these ridiculous fines that are not really a penalty.

BUT.... why now, and 10 second as well... yes that is bias.

Because of the impact it had on Antonelli. They say they don’t take that into consideration but they do (and should).

What a disaster show by Redbull. Again. Amateurs. Will Max now get penalty points for this, this is on the team.

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with the penalty. I was annoyed with the team fines for this. I think an unsafe release should be a minimum 5 second time penalty. Anything that can benefit the drivers race time or position should be a driver penalty.

It just stands out compared to the leniency it was handled with until now.

[Spacepace]

Horner told Ted Kravitz that it was human error. In the video it doesn't look like the lollipop guy was even paying attention to the pitlane. Odd

[karana]

Finally they are giving a time penalty for an unsafe release instead of these ridiculous fines that are not really a penalty.

BUT.... why now, and 10 second as well... yes that is bias.

Because of the impact it had on Antonelli. They say they don’t take that into consideration but they do (and should).

What a disaster show by Redbull. Again. Amateurs. Will Max now get penalty points for this, this is on the team.

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with the penalty. I was annoyed with the team fines for this. I think an unsafe release should be a minimum 5 second time penalty. Anything that can benefit the drivers race time or position should be a driver penalty.

It just stands out compared to the leniency it was handled with until now.

I can only remember Leclerc in Germany 2019 getting away with a fine for an unsafe release in a race, otherwise it has always be a time penalty if I recall correctly.

[Sieper]

Finally they are giving a time penalty for an unsafe release instead of these ridiculous fines that are not really a penalty.

BUT.... why now, and 10 second as well... yes that is bias.

Because of the impact it had on Antonelli. They say they don’t take that into consideration but they do (and should).

What a disaster show by Redbull. Again. Amateurs. Will Max now get penalty points for this, this is on the team.

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with the penalty. I was annoyed with the team fines for this. I think an unsafe release should be a minimum 5 second time penalty. Anything that can benefit the drivers race time or position should be a driver penalty.

It just stands out compared to the leniency it was handled with until now.

The penalty was right/correct. I am just fearing it will cost Max another 2 penalty points on his licence. He couldn’t do anything about it, the team made a mistake and it cost Max and Antonelli both the race.

[Cs98]

Because of the impact it had on Antonelli. They say they don’t take that into consideration but they do (and should).

What a disaster show by Redbull. Again. Amateurs. Will Max now get penalty points for this, this is on the team.

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with the penalty. I was annoyed with the team fines for this. I think an unsafe release should be a minimum 5 second time penalty. Anything that can benefit the drivers race time or position should be a driver penalty.

It just stands out compared to the leniency it was handled with until now.

The penalty was right/correct. I am just fearing it will cost Max another 2 penalty points on his licence. He couldn’t do anything about it, the team made a mistake and it cost Max and Antonelli both the race.

Wouldn't worry about license points, never seen those for an unsafe release. Those are for driving infringements.

[cliffgamerz]

Because of the impact it had on Antonelli. They say they don’t take that into consideration but they do (and should).

What a disaster show by Redbull. Again. Amateurs. Will Max now get penalty points for this, this is on the team.

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with the penalty. I was annoyed with the team fines for this. I think an unsafe release should be a minimum 5 second time penalty. Anything that can benefit the drivers race time or position should be a driver penalty.

It just stands out compared to the leniency it was handled with until now.

The penalty was right/correct. I am just fearing it will cost Max another 2 penalty points on his licence. He couldn’t do anything about it, the team made a mistake and it cost Max and Antonelli both the race.

I am on a fence in regards to 10 sec penalty for Max for that incident, but i think the decision was made because it severely impacted Antonelli's race as he couldn't pit. It was purely the teams fault and hence Max shouldn't receive penalty points for it.

But i am shocked at how quickly his out of position on pit box was dismissed immediately without any proper investigation. It looked similar to Norris mistake.

[Watto]

I tend to agree with Toto here - no blame on Oscar here at all I think the best drivers over the years have exploited these kinds of rules, just I can see this as one drivers will push to the very limits to the point they barely make the corner themselves and go outside anything they would do any other lap to push an opponent wide - Max in particular I can see in pushing the rules to the limit through the season and I am not sure I like it without the need to give the guy on the outside room


But they are the rules as they stand

[Cs98]

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with the penalty. I was annoyed with the team fines for this. I think an unsafe release should be a minimum 5 second time penalty. Anything that can benefit the drivers race time or position should be a driver penalty.

It just stands out compared to the leniency it was handled with until now.

The penalty was right/correct. I am just fearing it will cost Max another 2 penalty points on his licence. He couldn’t do anything about it, the team made a mistake and it cost Max and Antonelli both the race.

I am on a fence in regards to 10 sec penalty for Max for that incident, but i think the decision was made because it severely impacted Antonelli's race as he couldn't pit. It was purely the teams fault and hence Max shouldn't receive penalty points for it.

But i am shocked at how quickly his out of position on pit box was dismissed immediately without any proper investigation. It looked similar to Norris mistake.

A "proper investigation" of that takes about two seconds if you have the right angle, which the stewards have. Likely the only reason it was noted was because someone else complained and asked them to check it.

[Watto]

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with the penalty. I was annoyed with the team fines for this. I think an unsafe release should be a minimum 5 second time penalty. Anything that can benefit the drivers race time or position should be a driver penalty.

It just stands out compared to the leniency it was handled with until now.

The penalty was right/correct. I am just fearing it will cost Max another 2 penalty points on his licence. He couldn’t do anything about it, the team made a mistake and it cost Max and Antonelli both the race.

I am on a fence in regards to 10 sec penalty for Max for that incident, but i think the decision was made because it severely impacted Antonelli's race as he couldn't pit. It was purely the teams fault and hence Max shouldn't receive penalty points for it.

But i am shocked at how quickly his out of position on pit box was dismissed immediately without any proper investigation. It looked similar to Norris mistake.

On board Max's car I agree I don't know if they showed anything side on did they. I am guessing they were basing the call off the sensors in the grind/car.


They seem to have gotten quicker at making some of these calls. The Oscar/Kimi first corner incident was closed pretty quick too when it looked pretty marginal I think it was probably the right call, and they would have had a bunch more angles and data.

[Cs98]

The Lawson-Alonso incident will be interesting to see what the stewards say. Here we have Lawson as the overtaking car coming into the corner completely side by side, Alonso leaves no space on the outside and they collide soon after. If I understand correctly the driving guidelines still mandate that an overtaking car is entitled to space on the outside if they are side by side or ahead from the apex.

[TimW]

I can only remember Leclerc in Germany 2019 getting away with a fine for an unsafe release in a race, otherwise it has always be a time penalty if I recall correctly.

Quali or race, it gives the driver a benefit, it should be a driver penalty. So time penalty or grid drop.

Lenient penalties lead to playing the system.

But yes, maybe I was wrong on the bias.

[ringo]

The Lawson-Alonso incident will be interesting to see what the stewards say. Here we have Lawson as the overtaking car coming into the corner completely side by side, Alonso leaves no space on the outside and they collide soon after. If I understand correctly the driving guidelines still mandate that an overtaking car is entitled to space on the outside if they are side by side or ahead from the apex.

Yes but if a car goes off the track, it must re enter the track safely. That's where Lawson would carry more weight for the incident. That little tussle looked personal between the two.

As for Kimi vs Piastri. Kimi has nothing to complain about, he turned in to early to grab the apex and should have left a car's width for Oscar. He cannot say he was pushed off, where there was about 30 feet of track left on the outside for him to drive. The right thing to do was accept he lost P-1 and fall in line behind Oscar.