2025 McLaren F1 Team

[Juzh]

"Red Bull good at inventing its own underdog narrative" - Stella

[FittingMechanics]

What does the constructors look like, provisionally?

It looks good.

(double the points I think).

[mwillems]

"Red Bull good at inventing its own underdog narrative" - Stella

Ahahaha. Exactly lol

To be fair, today they were, but it's taken a few races for us to show this pace.

[FittingMechanics]

"Red Bull good at inventing its own underdog narrative" - Stella

After that season where Red Bull won every race other than Singapore, you guys should really complain less about a "dominant" car.

[Emag]

I really disagree with this. Norris was unlucky because he was a second car to attack Verstappen. Verstappen lost his tires and his pace dropped off. So Norris who relatively quickly overtook Verstappen lost a lot of time compared to Piastri (Verstappen had decent pace before Piastri overtook him).

I do agree that they have to start taking the inside against Max. Or at least attempt to take it so that Max has to drive super defensively.

No driver was ever going to take the position away from Max round the outside there in lap 1. I don't know why he bothered trying. It may work against a driver who leaves you space, but Max doesn't even leave you space when you're entitled some, there's no way in hell he is giving anyone unentitled space.

I don't blame anything about the later overtake attempts, Max wasn't going to fall for the same trick he fell to Oscar. But the lap 1 was entirely on him. He killed his race by trying something that has never worked against Max.

And yet, where did Piastri overtake Verstappen?

In T1 on the outside when Max was forced to defend deep and outbraked himself.

As if they weren't entirely different scenarios. Max lost the position in T1 already by going too deep. Go watch the replays again and see that Lando was going into a closing gap. Oscar had the job done before they got there.

[mwillems]

This Piastri interview about him owning leads in races... Lando is very stony faced listening to this.

[Ben1980]

In the end, Lando cost himself the win here, because he continues to treat Max like every other driver.

A rather boring race discounting the action in the first couple of laps, but this performance today is really ominous for the rest of the grid in the upcoming european hot stretch.

I really disagree with this. Norris was unlucky because he was a second car to attack Verstappen. Verstappen lost his tires and his pace dropped off. So Norris who relatively quickly overtook Verstappen lost a lot of time compared to Piastri (Verstappen had decent pace before Piastri overtook him).

I do agree that they have to start taking the inside against Max. Or at least attempt to take it so that Max has to drive super defensively.

No driver was ever going to take the position away from Max round the outside there in lap 1. I don't know why he bothered trying. It may work against a driver who leaves you space, but Max doesn't even leave you space when you're entitled some, there's no way in hell he is giving anyone unentitled space.

I don't blame anything about the later overtake attempts, Max wasn't going to fall for the same trick he fell to Oscar. But the lap 1 was entirely on him. He killed his race by trying something that has never worked against Max.

Max locked up didn't he. What else was Lando meant to do?

[mwillems]

He was about 10 to 15cm from it being Landos corner, of course he had to try. You can't watch a guy struggle to turn in and not have a go.

[AR3-GP]

"Red Bull good at inventing its own underdog narrative" - Stella

Ahahaha. Exactly lol

To be fair, today they were, but it's taken a few races for us to show this pace.

The pace has always been there.

[AR3-GP]

"Red Bull good at inventing its own underdog narrative" - Stella

After that season where Red Bull won every race other than Singapore, you guys should really complain less about a "dominant" car.

Mclaren has won 5 out of 6 races. They are still on target to match the RB19 and their drivers are not even driving that well. That speaks volumes about the car.

[Mclarenfanboy]

Omg. The tension between Oscar and Lando, GOT stuff, I love it.... shall we begin... , 2025 constructor s tittle is in the bag...

[Ben1980]

He was about 10 to 15cm from it being Landos corner, of course he had to try. You can't watch a guy struggle to turn in and not have a go.

Lando could have gone into him, then he had to go for the gap. Not sure what else he could have done.

And then, that's it race over.

Any criticism of Lando for that, is bizarre at best.

[mwillems]

Yeah it was the first time I'd seen tension between them.

It's on.

[Ben1980]

"Red Bull good at inventing its own underdog narrative" - Stella

Ahahaha. Exactly lol

To be fair, today they were, but it's taken a few races for us to show this pace.

The pace has always been there.

Yes, but not always the conditions. Today, it all came together.

[IntrinsicVoid]

Too much undersellers in this thread, enjoy it guys but please, keep it honest