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[Sergej]

[AR3-GP]

I believe it's lap 32 on the back straight.

[AR3-GP]

Marko said more updates for Imola.

[AR3-GP]

Russell will drive away with meds anyway

He didn't. Max was quicker, not that counts for much these days.

[AR3-GP]

What's the point of fighting? They are risking 3rd place.

I think I was wrong about this. If the rain came (some teams told their drivers to expect it around lap 20), then they probably would have stopped the race and Max would have been in a good position.

At one point, GP came on the radio and told Max to not to let the Mclarens go so this was part of their strategy. VSC was just unlucky. They would have been well clear of the Mercedes otherwise.

[langedweil]

Conclusions of the Stewards

11. It was evident from the onboard footage as well as from telemetry that Car 63 lifted the throttle when passing the yellow flag zone. The throttle was lifted by approx. 25 percent and this resulted in a reduction of torque of approx. 30 percent.
12. Article 26.1. a) requires the driver to have “discernibly reduced speed” in a yellow flag zone but does not specify if that means reducing the absolute speed or reducing the speed relative to the regular racing speed in the relevant part of the track.
13. The speed of Car 63 in the yellow flag zone was considerably slower than the regular racing speed, but the absolute speed while passing through the yellow flag zone increased slightly.
14. The Stewards determine that the requirement of Article 26.1 a) concerning the reduction of speed in a yellow flag zone can only relate to a reduction relative to the regular racing speed as the reduction of the absolute speed can, depending on the part of the track in which the yellow flag is displayed, represent a compliance or a non-compliance with the regulations whereas a reduction of the relative speed always signals that the driver has acknowledged and respected the yellow flag. For instance, in a braking zone the absolute speed can be reduced without necessarily complying with the regulations.

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Decision
15. The Protest is rejected as it is not founded.
16. The Protest Deposit is forfeited.

Was a pretty long shot ofcourse ..

[AR3-GP]

The strategy makes more sense now. They were expecting rain. Max held Piastri off until lap 14.




The VSC is just bad luck.

[langedweil]

What does kinda annoy me though is that we do have a couple of VSC laps for safety reasons for a car that's parked behind a barrier, but flashing by with 240kph instead of 300kph is easily safe enough ?
That is .. ehm, weird-ish

[langedweil]

The strategy makes more sense now. They were expecting rain. Max held Piastri off until lap 14.

https://i.postimg.cc/3x0dysmj/image.png

The VSC is just bad luck.

Yeah, ofc that was the reasoning for fighting for track position .. if it would have rained, the overall outcome would/could have easily way way different.

[langedweil]

At least .. remarkable

13. The speed of Car 63 in the yellow flag zone was considerably slower than the regular racing speed, but the absolute speed while passing through the yellow flag zone increased slightly.

[AR3-GP]

Lap 9 to Lap 18 of the Miami GP is another one to bookmark.

[venkyhere]

The fundamental loss to the McLarens is not tyre heat management. Yes, it is one aspect where McLaren is superior. But Miami showed the bigger aspect on which McLaren enjoys a massive advantage - slow corner rotation and non-aero assisted low speed mechanical traction. This advantage is not just against the RB21, but against any car on the grid.

[AR3-GP]

Asked if the next upgrade package would be enough, he replied: "It has to [be], but such a big step is difficult to catch up."

-Marko
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mark ... /10719958/

[ringo]

Red bull got smashed. The rain washing off any rubber as well as the temperatures exagerated McLarens low speed grip on a green track as well as how well they can preserve the tyres. Max was able to fight, but McLaren know they can pressure him until the tyres wear out. McLaren was definitely better in these conditions. I feel there is no way to catch them on some tracks. Other tracks the RB21 will be closer. But it makes no sense trying to upgrade in a direction to win on unusual tracks like Miami.
Maybe Max would have got 2nd or 3rd if he let Piastri go and just focus on an alternative strategy. Any way you look at, he had no chance of winning or holding back the McLarens today.

[CjC]

Asked if the next upgrade package would be enough, he replied: "It has to [be], but such a big step is difficult to catch up."

-Marko
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mark ... /10719958/

I thought this was an odd answer when I first read it after the race. It’s not like they can just go back to the factory today and say ‘you know that update for Imola? Add a few tenths to it please…’