2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Apparently Red Bull is already close to implement their own brake cooling solution, based on the MCL39.

"Therefore, it is no coincidence that all three top teams are working hard in this area to bring very short and short-term improvements. As we have already had the opportunity to report, they are working at Milton Keynes to try to replicate what McLaren think they can do, with sensitive components that could be on the track in the next races, even if Verstappen was very vague about it in Miami. "

Source: https://autoracer.it/it/mclaren-segreto ... eni-rivali

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pantherxxx wrote:
09 May 2025, 11:51
Apparently Red Bull is already close to implement their own brake cooling solution, based on the MCL39.

"Therefore, it is no coincidence that all three top teams are working hard in this area to bring very short and short-term improvements. As we have already had the opportunity to report, they are working at Milton Keynes to try to replicate what McLaren think they can do, with sensitive components that could be on the track in the next races, even if Verstappen was very vague about it in Miami. "

Source: https://autoracer.it/it/mclaren-segreto ... eni-rivali
This is a little bit of a bad translation, as "what McLaren think they can do" makes no sense. Now, my Italian is not amazing, but I can understand a little. I looked into the original text and I think a more appropriate translation would be something along the lines of : "what they think McLaren is doing".

So they have tried to reverse engineer it and have a good idea on what the solution could be, even if they might not know exactly how it works.
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Emag wrote:
09 May 2025, 12:15
pantherxxx wrote:
09 May 2025, 11:51
Apparently Red Bull is already close to implement their own brake cooling solution, based on the MCL39.

"Therefore, it is no coincidence that all three top teams are working hard in this area to bring very short and short-term improvements. As we have already had the opportunity to report, they are working at Milton Keynes to try to replicate what McLaren think they can do, with sensitive components that could be on the track in the next races, even if Verstappen was very vague about it in Miami. "

Source: https://autoracer.it/it/mclaren-segreto ... eni-rivali
This is a little bit of a bad translation, as "what McLaren think they can do" makes no sense. Now, my Italian is not amazing, but I can understand a little. I looked into the original text and I think a more appropriate translation would be something along the lines of : "what they think McLaren is doing".

So they have tried to reverse engineer it and have a good idea on what the solution could be, even if they might not know exactly how it works.
yeah the sense is that Red Bull have an idea of what McLaren are doing and they're trying to replicate it.

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Why all this noise about Horner resigning ? other rumors spreading out today from Austrian source.

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Sergej wrote:
09 May 2025, 12:37
Emag wrote:
09 May 2025, 12:15
pantherxxx wrote:
09 May 2025, 11:51
Apparently Red Bull is already close to implement their own brake cooling solution, based on the MCL39.

"Therefore, it is no coincidence that all three top teams are working hard in this area to bring very short and short-term improvements. As we have already had the opportunity to report, they are working at Milton Keynes to try to replicate what McLaren think they can do, with sensitive components that could be on the track in the next races, even if Verstappen was very vague about it in Miami. "

Source: https://autoracer.it/it/mclaren-segreto ... eni-rivali
This is a little bit of a bad translation, as "what McLaren think they can do" makes no sense. Now, my Italian is not amazing, but I can understand a little. I looked into the original text and I think a more appropriate translation would be something along the lines of : "what they think McLaren is doing".

So they have tried to reverse engineer it and have a good idea on what the solution could be, even if they might not know exactly how it works.
yeah the sense is that Red Bull have an idea of what McLaren are doing and they're trying to replicate it.
I agree that was a bad translation. I used Claude 3.7 to translate the article for me, and this seems much better translated:

In short, not only in terms of aeroelasticity but also in the area of wheel corners, more precisely inside the brake ducts, McLaren makes an important difference compared to all other teams, thanks to very advanced technical solutions designed by the team directed by Rob Marshall, a former prominent Red Bull engineer. The brake ducts that we usually see covering the entire braking system have a standard design on the outside, but beneath it, teams have a lot of freedom in design and often search for important aerodynamic gains and especially cooling, although for this season McLaren has significantly raised the technical bar in that macro area as well. It's therefore no coincidence that all three top teams are working extensively in that area to bring developments in the very short and short term. At Milton Keynes specifically, as we've already reported, they are working on trying to replicate what they believe McLaren might be doing, with sensitive parts that could already see the track in one of the upcoming races, although Verstappen was very vague about it in Miami

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Sergej wrote:
09 May 2025, 14:08
Why all this noise about Horner resigning ? other rumors spreading out today from Austrian source.
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Red-Bull-Beben! Christian Horner vor dem Aus
08.05.25, 17:41

In der Formel 1 bahnt sich ein absoluter Paukenschlag an: Red Bull könnte sich bereits nach dem Rennen in Imola
von Teamchef Christian Horner trennen.
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Red Bull quake! Christian Horner faces the end
08.05.25, 17:41

An absolute bombshell is in the offing in Formula 1: Red Bull could part ways with team boss Christian Horner
as early as after the race in Imola

German article: https://www.oe24.at/sport/motorsport/fo ... /632657177

English translated: https://www-oe24-at.translate.goog/spor ... r_pto=wapp
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They are over a year late in sacking Horner; the damage is already done. Newey and Wheatley are already gone, along with some others. Wheatley would have been a good substitute if Red Bull had suspended Horner, as any other team or company would have done.

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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
09 May 2025, 17:19
They are over a year late in sacking Horner; the damage is already done. Newey and Wheatley are already gone, along with some others. Wheatley would have been a good substitute if Red Bull had suspended Horner, as any other team or company would have done.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, GP for TP! For me he's an even more exciting candidate than Wheatley was due to his relative youth and intimate knowledge on the technical side.

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I hope Red Bull won't sink to the level of Ferrari, where they always blamed the team principal when the team didn't do well. We saw how well that worked at Ferrari.

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Sergej wrote:
09 May 2025, 14:08
Why all this noise about Horner resigning ? other rumors spreading out today from Austrian source.
Too many credibility issues. We know the Austrian side of Red Bull are not fond of him, so Austrian sources are poisoned imo.

Autosprint made the first connection with "Oliver Oakes". That looks wide of the mark considering the current situation with him...The austrian page repeats the Oakes rumor, and then adds Franz Tost to the mix... It's nonsense and it makes no sense :lol:



Until Erik Van Haren is saying it, it's not real. Until then it feels more like the parts that wanted to get rid of Horner are drumming up a buzz to make it uncomfortable for him again. Although, if Horner manages to lose both Newey and Verstappen, then I would say a dismissal is due.
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Today Max tested a Ferrari GT3 at Nurburgring. I like very much this guy, he breathes motorsport.

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Wouter wrote:
09 May 2025, 15:52
Sergej wrote:
09 May 2025, 14:08
Why all this noise about Horner resigning ? other rumors spreading out today from Austrian source.
.
Red-Bull-Beben! Christian Horner vor dem Aus
08.05.25, 17:41

In der Formel 1 bahnt sich ein absoluter Paukenschlag an: Red Bull könnte sich bereits nach dem Rennen in Imola
von Teamchef Christian Horner trennen.
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Red Bull quake! Christian Horner faces the end
08.05.25, 17:41

An absolute bombshell is in the offing in Formula 1: Red Bull could part ways with team boss Christian Horner
as early as after the race in Imola

German article: https://www.oe24.at/sport/motorsport/fo ... /632657177

English translated: https://www-oe24-at.translate.goog/spor ... r_pto=wapp
Not a particularly great source that one, but either way, at the moment it seems like people just jumped the gun after Oakes resigned from Alpine, trying to be the first ones for a potential big headline. However as it turned out, Oakes was just busy getting involved in organized crime and has simply a little bit more on his plate to deal with rather than mess about with his TP duties at Alpine.
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Sergej wrote:
09 May 2025, 19:02
Today Max tested a Ferrari GT3 at Nurburgring. I like very much this guy, he breathes motorsport.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqgQjONWQAA ... name=large
I love to see him share a track with Kyle Larson in a NASCAR :twisted:
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Sergej wrote:
09 May 2025, 19:02
Today Max tested a Ferrari GT3 at Nurburgring. I like very much this guy, he breathes motorsport.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqgQjONWQAA ... name=large
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According to AMuS, Max is allegedly planning to obtain the so-called Nordschleife licence this year which is necessary
to participate in official NLS events and also the 24h race at the nürburgring. It takes 14 tests!!
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He (and Horner...) might have 14 free weekends if those brake tins don’t work...everyone is going to be suddenly “free” :lol: :lol:
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