2025 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, May 16 - 18

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Re: 2025 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, May 16 - 18

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Pirelli changed the tyre pressures overnight again?

Was this ever a common thing under the likes of GoodYear and Bridgestone?

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chrisc90
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Dropped one axle 1psi
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Who at Pirelli thought it was a good idea to drop tyre pressures?

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Easy McLaren 1 and 2 based on what we know so far. Only can that can work the C6's.
Call a spade, a spade.

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That's a lot of money...

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Massive shunt for Tsunoda, pitched up into the catch fence, multiple rolls on top of the barrier.

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That's going to be a tough one for the Mechanics.

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BorisTheBlade wrote:
17 May 2025, 16:15
That's going to be a tough one for the Mechanics.
I think they'll just take the engine out if it still can work. Everything else is a write-off.
Call a spade, a spade.

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Can't wait to see the back of these Ground Effect cars. They're too sensitive. That ride over the curbs would have been nothing for the previous T shaped floor car.

Someone take some pictures of that underfloor before it returns to the garage. :mrgreen:
For Sure!!

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Not often you see a yard sale crash in F1. Glad he’s okay

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ringo wrote:
17 May 2025, 16:16
Can't wait to see the back of these Ground Effect cars. They're too sensitive. That ride over the curbs would have been nothing for the previous T shaped floor car.

Someone take some pictures of that underfloor before it returns to the garage. :mrgreen:
These types of crashes were the reason skirts were banned. I really don't think Tsunoda did anything wrong here, the car looked almost straight and just lost grip/downforce on landing from the kerb.

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ringo wrote:
17 May 2025, 16:16
Can't wait to see the back of these Ground Effect cars. They're too sensitive. That ride over the curbs would have been nothing for the previous T shaped floor car.

Someone take some pictures of that underfloor before it returns to the garage. :mrgreen:
This is where commentators mislead the viewers. The car didn't lose control because it happened to go over the kerb. The car lost control because the driver, despite knowing that he has climbed over a kerb, added steering input before the wheel fully landed back. This is pure driver error.

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venkyhere wrote:
17 May 2025, 16:19
ringo wrote:
17 May 2025, 16:16
Can't wait to see the back of these Ground Effect cars. They're too sensitive. That ride over the curbs would have been nothing for the previous T shaped floor car.

Someone take some pictures of that underfloor before it returns to the garage. :mrgreen:
This is where commentators mislead the viewers. The car didn't lose control because it happened to go over the kerb. The car lost control because the driver, despite knowing that he has climbed over a kerb, added steering input before the wheel fully landed back. This is pure driver error.
No, the car was bouncing while the car was still loaded up. This is a really common crash scenario. Too much curb, and the car is bouncing while the car is still asking for a lot of side load.

Go to any race track and you’ll see a ton of tire marks spinning into the inside of the corner, a lot of times from this exact scenario. Once he clobbered the curb, it was over and he was along for a ride from there.

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venkyhere wrote:
17 May 2025, 16:19
ringo wrote:
17 May 2025, 16:16
Can't wait to see the back of these Ground Effect cars. They're too sensitive. That ride over the curbs would have been nothing for the previous T shaped floor car.

Someone take some pictures of that underfloor before it returns to the garage. :mrgreen:
This is where commentators mislead the viewers. The car didn't lose control because it happened to go over the kerb. The car lost control because the driver, despite knowing that he has climbed over a kerb, added steering input before the wheel fully landed back. This is pure driver error.
Look on the replay as the car came down. It started to oscillate or bounce. He could not have saved it, maybe just not take so much curb in the first place, but again the car is too delicate. It should not be that a little jump takes away so much performance. That's why everyone is avoiding the curbs. The formula has created a narrow mode of operation. One line and one driving style to get the best lap time. Pretty unnecessary and boring.

Decoupling these 1 or 2mm from so much more performance from the cars in future would make for more variability and more entertaining racing.
For Sure!!

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chrisc90
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The accident was made worse by the ‘jump’ caused by the grass being higher than the gravel. You can see the rear jump up.



Absolute monster lap from Max there
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.