2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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I am not sure yet but it would be good if the upgrades push the car away from Mercedes for now. Mercedes seems weirdly slow here even over a lap. That's on a normal race weekend and with multiple upgrades -- one of the being a stiffer front wing.

Maybe it's the wings maybe it's not but time will tell. Maybe the Spain TD will be interesting.
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AR3-GP wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:43
f1isgood wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:39
Imole Pole gives you inside line I think, so Oscar will just repeat Jeddah lol. I think Piastri will win a very comfortable race.
Let's see. The mediums looked good in FP3. C6 suits Mclaren more.
True, Max also said that in the presser.
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Emag wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:23
If Max gets clean laps in, he is the favorite for pole with how quali is looking so far. Nobody is going anywhere near FP3 times, these tires suck.
Max is now the favorite for the Title. Only Oscar's magic can stop him.

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Also I think at least that the upgrades were not "downgrades". Some of the higher speed circuits in the upcoming races will suit this car. Barcelona, Silverstone, Spa... There are also upgrades for Barcelona.
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Good job Max, no words for Yuki, good that he is alright after that crash. The real test is tomorrow.
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AR3-GP wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:47
Also I think at least that the upgrades were not "downgrades". Some of the higher speed circuits in the upcoming races will suit this car. Barcelona, Silverstone, Spa... There are also upgrades for Barcelona.
If the car took a good step in race pace (the pace you have been focusing on), I think it is not all bleak.
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AR3-GP wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:47
Also I think at least that the upgrades were not "downgrades".
People are looking into FP sessions as if they're anything other than testing grounds for the teams. Max has one little snap in FP2 and suddenly the car is bad. They're just experimenting with setup, trying to find the sweet spot, both the driver and the car. The car wasn't bad yesterday, it just wasn't high on the timing sheets.

I am not at all surprised Max got that close to pole. Predicted this yesterday already.
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AR3-GP wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:47
Also I think at least that the upgrades were not "downgrades". Some of the higher speed circuits in the upcoming races will suit this car. Barcelona, Silverstone, Spa... There are also upgrades for Barcelona.
it will depend on if and when the McLaren style brake stuff will come, you can be fast on those tracks but if you eat tyres you are finished anyway

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The Imola upgrades on paper should have improved tyre wear in a meaningful way. The rear corner ducting directly controls how turbulent air exits around and behind the rear tyres, if rear overheating was previously limiting race pace, cleaning up airflow in this region could deliver a meaningful improvement in stint length, race pace.

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They really have to beat Piastri tomorrow. I feel it's do or die. That gap cannot grow. Try early undercut and then block him even if Norris goes ahead of both. Piastri cannot be allowed to win tomorrow. Tsunoda would have been useful had he not binned it.
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AR3-GP wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:53
They really have to beat Piastri tomorrow. I feel it's do or die. That gap cannot grow. Try early undercut and then block him even if Norris goes ahead of both. Piastri cannot be allowed to win tomorrow. Tsunoda would have been useful had he not binned it.
There's a real chance that Piastri keeps lead into T1 and then disappears into the distance, giving no chance for undertake. I think we have to be prepared to this. Not expecting any miracle tomorrow.

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Sergej wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:57
AR3-GP wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:53
They really have to beat Piastri tomorrow. I feel it's do or die. That gap cannot grow. Try early undercut and then block him even if Norris goes ahead of both. Piastri cannot be allowed to win tomorrow. Tsunoda would have been useful had he not binned it.
There's a real chance that Piastri keeps lead into T1 and then disappears into the distance, giving no chance for undertake. I think we have to be prepared to this. Not expecting any miracle tomorrow.
DRS opens on the 2nd lap so there are chances. It's a small window. They need to disrupt Piastri even if they don't win the race. That gap can't grow another 7-10 points.
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I'm kind of worried from T1 for the same reason.
I think both Piastri and Max will be determined to turn first.

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Paa wrote:
17 May 2025, 18:01
I'm kind of worried from T1 for the same reason.
I think both Piastri and Max will be determined to turn first.
Quite a long run down to T1 and McLaren is quite slow on a straight line. It's very likely they will end up side by side and whoever gets to the corner first will try to claim it for himself and push the other wide (or have a clash).
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I'd rather see him play it safe and hold second. Given what we saw today, it might be another interesting race of yellow/red flags. Rather see Max survive and hold track position than potentially losing it. Oscar is not afraid to get his elbows out and push Max off the track either.