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[Hoffman900]

Great move by the ‘bottler’ as some refer to him as

Lucked into have 16 lap newer tires, but sure.

When you say lucked you mean knows how to save his tyres? Piastri wasn't able to save his tyres, had to pit earlier and then wasn't able to move through the field.

Norris got into the position of having a new set of hards to put on by virtue of his good driving. It's a prime example of that saying, "you make your own luck"

That’s not what happened

Oscar was on an undercut strategy.

[Ben1980]

Actually we are not as fast as the Red Bull

The pace is simply not there today for both the cars. I hope this is a one off case and not that the RBR upgrades and the McLaren downgrades is showing up now.

Pace was fine. If Oscar doesn't give up p1, good chance he wins.

Max won the race.

[Ben1980]

Lucked into have 16 lap newer tires, but sure.

When you say lucked you mean knows how to save his tyres? Piastri wasn't able to save his tyres, had to pit earlier and then wasn't able to move through the field.

Norris got into the position of having a new set of hards to put on by virtue of his good driving. It's a prime example of that saying, "you make your own luck"

That’s not what happened

Oscar was on an undercut strategy.

Because he said his tyres were struggling.

[cliffgamerz]

Actually we are not as fast as the Red Bull

The pace is simply not there today for both the cars. I hope this is a one off case and not that the RBR upgrades and the McLaren downgrades is showing up now.

This. The whole narrative that Redbull is slow, especially with their upgrades, needs to be thrown out the window.

Oscar just BARELY beat Max to pole and the RB had great race pace today.

Also only driver to do a sub 1:18 lap over race distance, so people just need to stop saying McLarens are dominant lol, best Lando could do on similar age tyre to Max was 1:18.311 whereas Max was 1:17.988 and was on lower 1:18s throughout his last stint and Lando was loosing roughly half a second per lap.

[Dimond]

I think we'll see a similar scenario in Monaco

[mwillems]

Strange Race. The Red Bull was faster and the result fair. Really terrible entry to turn 1 from Piastri, had he held that then clean air might have helped.

Strategy just seemed odd but I don't think we could have strategised to the win.

Piastris pace was poor, too. Not a good Sunday.

[Mcl_G10]

Our 2 mclaren boys will knock ten bells out of each other whilst max slips by them both.
Should have swapped positions straight away and at least made max work hard for it.

[FittingMechanics]

Lando was falling behind Max even after passing Oscar.

I’m a Mclaren fan, but do any of you honestly believe Lando was going to do anything with Max on equal tires, at a “hard to overtake” track?

I would have wanted to have an opportunity to see if he can hold on and fight. This defeatist "he didn't have a chance so we sent him to get new tires to fight PIA and risk a crash" is lunacy.

What the team did today made no sense.
NOR is in P2, by pitting him for new hards you risk losing a position to ALB (he would have lost it if ALB didn't pit next lap), then you get NOR on new hards behind PIA on old hards, by not swapping you seriously increase risk of a crash between them.

I can understand that it reduced chances of both cars losing out due to tires, but at least do yourself a favor and not invite a crash between the two while at the same time, allowing VER to run away.

I can't wait until that Red Bull strategy guy comes into the team. I hope these type of decisions are gone when that happens.

[genarro]

What is everyone moaning about. This is the price of having two no1 drivers. You have to let them race.

The more worrying part is that RB isnt a sh!tbox anymore...

[wickedz50]

Actually we are not as fast as the Red Bull

The pace is simply not there today for both the cars. I hope this is a one off case and not that the RBR upgrades and the McLaren downgrades is showing up now.

This. The whole narrative that Redbull is slow, especially with their upgrades, needs to be thrown out the window.

Oscar just BARELY beat Max to pole and the RB had great race pace today.

I think by the time we close the European leg there will be a new leader. I hope I am wrong and that this track characteristics helped RBR.

[Hoffman900]

The pace is simply not there today for both the cars. I hope this is a one off case and not that the RBR upgrades and the McLaren downgrades is showing up now.

This. The whole narrative that Redbull is slow, especially with their upgrades, needs to be thrown out the window.

Oscar just BARELY beat Max to pole and the RB had great race pace today.

Also only driver to do a sub 1:18 lap over race distance, so people just need to stop saying McLarens are dominant lol, best Lando could do on similar age tyre to Max was 1:18.311 whereas Max was 1:17.988 and was on lower 1:18s throughout his last stint and Lando was loosing roughly half a second per lap.

This.

Oscar was sleeping a little but Max had a brilliant pass, so you can’t take that away from him.

Sadly, on merit, Mclaren was 2nd best today.

[geogate]

really bad race from oscars side of the garage - we gave Max that one, it shouldnt have happened, and we cant afford for it to keep happening. It dosnt need team orders, it needs just not to throw away races

[mwillems]

Actually we are not as fast as the Red Bull

The pace is simply not there today for both the cars. I hope this is a one off case and not that the RBR upgrades and the McLaren downgrades is showing up now.

This. The whole narrative that Redbull is slow, especially with their upgrades, needs to be thrown out the window.

Oscar just BARELY beat Max to pole and the RB had great race pace today.

Mclarens "Game changing" cooling only changes the game in extreme conditions.


RB have been close all year. But I'm sure there will be some Red Bull fans incoming adamant that the sky is actually green.

[cliffgamerz]

This. The whole narrative that Redbull is slow, especially with their upgrades, needs to be thrown out the window.

Oscar just BARELY beat Max to pole and the RB had great race pace today.

Also only driver to do a sub 1:18 lap over race distance, so people just need to stop saying McLarens are dominant lol, best Lando could do on similar age tyre to Max was 1:18.311 whereas Max was 1:17.988 and was on lower 1:18s throughout his last stint and Lando was loosing roughly half a second per lap.

This.

Oscar was sleeping a little but Max had a brilliant pass, so you can’t take that away from him.

Sadly, on merit, Mclaren was 2nd best today.

Yes, clearly 2nd best on pace, maybe Mclaren need some upgrades or also track temperature too as the track temps dropped to 39c at the end of the race as at the start it was 45c

[FittingMechanics]

Strange Race. The Red Bull was faster and the result fair. Really terrible entry to turn 1 from Piastri, had he held that then clean air might have helped.

Strategy just seemed odd but I don't think we could have strategised to the win.

Piastris pace was poor, too. Not a good Sunday.

I agree that we didn't lose the win due to strategy. That is not what I am saying. But I do think that they did not maximize their potential with the strategy.

First PIA stop I could understand, undercut looked powerful but they had to understand they are pitting into a bunch of hard runners so you'll struggle to gain on those that overcut.

After that, pitting NOR while he still had good pace was always a bad idea. I fully expected VSC/SC in this race and of course it materialized.

Second NOR stop makes no sense if you are not trying to fight for the win. I hope it is not just a defensive stop to not lose both tires to old tires. That is not what a WCC winning and WDC leading team should be thinking about.

And then, at the end, when you are given a chance to reset everything and get an opportunity to fight for the win, you don't do a swap to at least try. By not swapping you are risking a double DNF because they will fight for P2.

So out of 3 pitstops, I can only say one made sense at the time (PIA stop) and that one turned out bad as well. When you couple this with bad tire management from PIA and unlucky VSC you get this result.