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[Ben1980]

Max would have won in the McLaren.

He would probably have won all races so far, let's be honest.

Because he isn't racing against Max Verstappen. Can people stop this alternate reality nonsense.

[Ben1980]

Everything is okay. Both drivers did their best but Red Bull was the faster car today with the weather being cool enough to help their tyre preservation and got lucky with that VSC. Oscar made one mistake all year and lost one battle from Max. Big deal. He still won in all the other battles against him. People are blind if they think Oscar is not making the difference in the car.

Go rewatch AUS. You might want to refersh your pink glasses memory.

You mean the same AUS where Oscar forced Max into a mistake? It's really okay. Nobody is perfect. Oscar will lose some battles and he will other battles just as Max will. He is still 5-2 in front of Max. I expected today the whole hyperbole narrative to start about Max overdriving his car but people have to be blind not to understand that Oscar is making the difference and not just his Mclaren. Mclaren was never dominant and it's time to start accepting that perhaps it's drivers are better than what people think.

The question will be, if Max has a closer car that can challenge in the race, he is a different proposition.

When the Red Bull is in the conditions it was fast in qualifying and at times fast in the race.

[Darth-Piekus]

Max would have won in the McLaren.

He would probably have won all races so far, let's be honest.

Because he isn't racing against Max Verstappen. Can people stop this alternate reality nonsense.

Personally I'm pretty sure that Max would not have been able to drive that Mclaren as it's a completely different car and he hasn't driven anything else apart from that Red Bull family. This whole narrative is as nonsense as the narrative that Mclaren has a dominant car and the Red Bull was very close. 0.030 is as close as you can get. You can't get any more closer than that. After all who says that the Red Bull wasn't a faster car today in the clear air?

[Watto]

Neither of the drivers could have won today, but another great team result.

Piastri should have won. He wins if he doesn't balls up the start.

They also pitted him into the world of hurt. Don't know if Oscar has cooked his tyres that really forced their hand. I know Oscar was on the radio plan A wasn't looking ideal. But seemed poor to put him into so much traffic. Both I think have a bit of the blame.

[Jambier]

Decent result today, RBR seems very fast in those conditions.

Win was also possible but anyway it was very close.
Team should continue like that win when possible and p2 and p3 when not.

It seems that this will be a 3 guy battle until the end of the year! Very nice

[Ben1980]

Neither of the drivers could have won today, but another great team result.

Piastri should have won. He wins if he doesn't balls up the start.

They also pitted him into the world of hurt. Don't know if Oscar has cooked his tyres that really forced their hand. I know Oscar was on the radio plan A wasn't looking ideal. But seemed poor to put him into so much traffic. Both I think have a bit of the blame.

The pitting may have cost him second but didn't really change the win.

[Darth-Piekus]

Next GP is Monaco where pole gives the win. How is Mclaren in a Monaco type circuit?

[Ken27]

Max would have won in the McLaren.

He would probably have won all races so far, let's be honest.

I've no doubt this is the case. He's 9 points off Norris despite having the fastest car in 1 (today) out of 7 races.

[Darth-Piekus]

And 22 from Piastri who made just one mistake. Does that not show that perhaps Piastri is making the difference with the same caar?

[FittingMechanics]

Btw same type of strategy more concerned with your teammate was done in Japan as well. This ensured Max could win that race as well.

Both drivers/sides of garage seem to think this is between two of them and their strategy is to maximize result against one another, not against Verstappen or rest of the field. We will see if this comes back to hurt them.

[Watto]

Piastri should have won. He wins if he doesn't balls up the start.

They also pitted him into the world of hurt. Don't know if Oscar has cooked his tyres that really forced their hand. I know Oscar was on the radio plan A wasn't looking ideal. But seemed poor to put him into so much traffic. Both I think have a bit of the blame.

The pitting may have cost him second but didn't really change the win.

I agree but it gave time to Red Bull has be been in clean air it might have forced their hand early but allowed them to run another 10 plus laps into race allowed them the bonus of cheaper pit under the VSC - yeah Max would've been well ahead still but it took all the pressure off them when their pit stops have been shaky this year - was actually McLaren that had the slow stops today

[CjC]

I had Max chalked down for the win so I’m not surprised.

Still waiting for a reply from the member who mentioned ‘downgrades’ as there haven’t been and upgrades to become ‘downgrades’ it’s just the typical ill informed rage baiting that we seem to have to endure these days.

Stella said the upgrades are coming and they are needed. Red Bull punched this weekend and won (just like Miami 2024 for McLaren) the current spec might still be good enough to win the coming races but Max is too dangerous to take the risk, I’ll be disappointed if we don’t see a decent upgrade come Spain.

[Rikhart]

Btw same type of strategy more concerned with your teammate was done in Japan as well. This ensured Max could win that race as well.

Both drivers/sides of garage seem to think this is between two of them and their strategy is to maximize result against one another, not against Verstappen or rest of the field. We will see if this comes back to hurt them.

You do get the feeling they really thought they would have a massive advantage over the opposition all year long, and were just fighting themselves.

[proteus]

Neither of the drivers could have won today, but another great team result.

Piastri should have won. He wins if he doesn't balls up the start.

No way. He was unable to beat Max today. We need to accept it and move on. Cant win them all.

[Seerix]

Everything is okay. Both drivers did their best but Red Bull was the faster car today with the weather being cool enough to help their tyre preservation and got lucky with that VSC. Oscar made one mistake all year and lost one battle from Max. Big deal. He still won in all the other battles against him. People are blind if they think Oscar is not making the difference in the car.

Go rewatch AUS. You might want to refersh your pink glasses memory.

I don’t know if you can pin it starting to downpour while Oscar is mid corner on Oscar.

Yeah you are right, I just overreacted answering to someone whose posts I should have just skipped. My bad.