2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Rather, Red Bull has not yet reached its maximum at the moment: "I don't think we have the set-up of the car completely under control yet. But I think Saturday in Imola gave us some good indications of what we need from the car."
https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... r-25052214

Interesting...
It doesn't turn.

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Red Bull need to bring V-shaped rear wings. Unnecessary drag....
And man I swear to god if they fail to bring a Spa Monza spec wing this year....
Call a spade, a spade.

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Max said the car has still problems on kerbs, and of course in slow speed stuff, so expects a difficult weekend. I expect the usual sh*tshow Friday :D

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Verstappen will get pole in Monaco. There's no way Norris and Piastri will not screw up their own Q3 lap. This track is about driver skill.

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AR3-GP wrote:
22 May 2025, 20:05
Rather, Red Bull has not yet reached its maximum at the moment: "I don't think we have the set-up of the car completely under control yet. But I think Saturday in Imola gave us some good indications of what we need from the car."
https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... r-25052214

Interesting...
Waché also said in his post-imola comments that they think they missed something on one lap. Perhaps more to come

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pantherxxx wrote:
23 May 2025, 11:03
Verstappen will get pole in Monaco. There's no way Norris and Piastri will not screw up their own Q3 lap. This track is about driver skill.
Which is why he got pole in Monaco on every occasion before...

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organic wrote:
23 May 2025, 11:28
AR3-GP wrote:
22 May 2025, 20:05
Rather, Red Bull has not yet reached its maximum at the moment: "I don't think we have the set-up of the car completely under control yet. But I think Saturday in Imola gave us some good indications of what we need from the car."
https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... r-25052214

Interesting...
Waché also said in his post-imola comments that they think they missed something on one lap. Perhaps more to come
Missed in a sense that they still need some upgrades to find further performance? Or in a sense that they already had it on the table, just were not able to utilize due to sub-optimal setup?

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Paa wrote:
23 May 2025, 11:30
organic wrote:
23 May 2025, 11:28
AR3-GP wrote:
22 May 2025, 20:05

https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... r-25052214

Interesting...
Waché also said in his post-imola comments that they think they missed something on one lap. Perhaps more to come
Missed in a sense that they still need some upgrades to find further performance? Or in a sense that they already had it on the table, just were not able to utilize due to sub-optimal setup?
Unclear just said that they missed something . Not sure if that meant that they could have done better with the available tools, or if he meant it in the sense of a lack of performance.

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It's misleading to say they missed something in Imola. He is probably referring to the ultimate lap time, which is impossible in reality, because the tires or set up don't allow it.

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ispano6 wrote:
20 May 2025, 01:12
bigblue wrote:
19 May 2025, 23:09
Has anyone seen any info on whether he had the full set of new bits before quali, and what he had for the race? I haven't seen anything.
He had the full package from FP-Quali. The race he had to use the old spec long-nose front wing. I believe he's damaged two already from Jeddah and Imola. He had the new sidepods during the race still.
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19 May 2025, 23:03
Wonder how much of the new package Yuki will have available at Monaco, given he, uh, modified quite a lot of it last Saturday.
If he has to use the old nose, it might actually be better with more downforce. It's noticeably narrower and less bulbous and may require to be balanced with either a higher downforce rear wing/double chord beam wing and/or softer rear set up. Imola might have been a good data gathering session to understand if reverting to the higher downforce front wing could be used as a set up option in future races. He did damage the right wing endplate strake with the clash with Sainz, so that will need to be patched up.

I'm curious if RedBull's Spain upgrade will have a Mclaren/Mercedes-esque front suspension fairing flick and Ferrari's mini-wing elements that extend from the gearbox casing alongside the base of the rear wing stand. Those appear to be efficient gains that could provide a modest effect for the cost.
"Tsunoda set to use previous version of Red Bull's floor at F1 Monaco GP after Imola qualifying crash [...] It is understood to be the only difference with Verstappen's car this weekend."

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Makes sense from a budget cap standpoint and championship position to always let Tsunoda use the older parts.

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/yuki ... /10725445/
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Yuki Tsunoda has admitted his huge Imola F1 qualifying crash will have lingering effects, as he has to revert to a previous floor design at this weekend's Monaco Grand Prix.
Motorsport.com has learned that Tsunoda will be reverting to Red Bull's older, pre-Miami floor. Verstappen ran the new floor in Miami before Tsunoda received it as well in Imola, but he then damaged it beyond repair in qualifying. It is understood to be the only difference with Verstappen's car this weekend.

"In terms of package, to be honest I never ran the full new package yet, even Imola was a little bit different," Tsunoda said. "I don't think we're going to have a full one [in Monaco], I just made a step back anyway, which is my fault."

"Imola qualifying, it wouldn't happen like that if I understand the car, to be honest," he explained. "In the VCARB, I don't think I've had that kind of crash by myself since 2022. I was pushing too much, so it's just lacking understanding of how the car is going to behave with each set-up.

"The set-up I tried was completely new. To be honest, I guess the Red Bull changes more than I expected. The VCARB car, even if we change it, I don't think it would have that much of a difference. So, I just have to take it easy when I change the set-up and try something new.

"It's taking slightly more than expected. But as a group we have a good relationship between me and Woody [race engineer Richard Wood] and Cooke [performance engineer Richard Cooke] as well. From our side of the garage, we just keep learning every race."

The 25-year-old's job won't be any easier around the tight streets of Monaco, which leaves little room for error, but Tsunoda vows he will build up the pace gradually.

"In terms of track, I quite like it, and I had good memories last two years," he said. "Apparently, the Red Bull car is a very bumpy car in Monaco and it's not an easy car to drive, that's what Max said.

"So, I just need to build the confidence and hopefully I can make a good qualifying. You can't just follow the same approach as Imola or other tracks where you have a bit of run-off, so I'm just going to build up the pace slowly."
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Third TC and MGUH for Max.

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SirBastianVettel wrote:
23 May 2025, 12:15
Makes sense from a budget cap standpoint and championship position to always let Tsunoda use the older parts.
Or they are just afraid that Tsunoda would do a showcase of the floor, a'la Perez.

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Mercedes switched back to the flexiwing mid-fp1 this weekend. Seems maybe the effect of that wing rule change is going to be larger than they said in the media