2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Damage limitation for this weekend at the best.

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They will never learn, why dont go to mediums tyres if the softs dont work... Barcelona cant come soon enough. This race is over. We are just nowhere in the slow-speed. But I expected this in Monaco a big struggle, Max cant make the difference because the lack of medium-high speed corners. And the car cant rotate as good as the Mclaren, Ferrari. The main problem is before the tunnel.
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f1isgood wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:18
Sergej wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:17
lol 7 tenths :lol: that's worse than last year...
Max never got a final lap in last year though. He made a mistake into T1. There was more in the car I think. I think P4 was on the table. Not much more.
yeah I remember, that makes this year performance even worse, doesn't it ?

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With the mandatory 2-stop rule, they could still sneak in for a win to be honest. Could get a luckily-timed red flag or safety car and that would do it.
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Sergej wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:20
f1isgood wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:18
Sergej wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:17
lol 7 tenths :lol: that's worse than last year...
Max never got a final lap in last year though. He made a mistake into T1. There was more in the car I think. I think P4 was on the table. Not much more.
yeah I remember, that makes this year performance even worse, doesn't it ?
I think it's hard to evaluate with the C6's. We never seemed to get time out of them.
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Thankfully there's a lottery tomorrow.

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Bill wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:18
Sergej wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:17
lol 7 tenths :lol: that's worse than last year...
the car is designed for high speed corners the will be epic in siverstone
Silverstone is not just Maggots and Beckets though. The track has other corners where Macca will absolutely fly and they'll also fly in the high speed. At least maybe the car will be close in Barcelona.
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I just don't get why they left it for so late? McLaren easily got 2 fast laps from the tyre. P4 could have been doable, but probably not much more.
Also this was very high risk for if someone crashes.

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Paa wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:23
I just don't get why they left it for so late? McLaren easily got 2 fast laps from the tyre. P4 could have been doable, but probably not much more.
Also this was very high risk for if someone crashes.
McLaren can get lap time out of every tire.

We couldn't get the C6's to work at Imola either. We would make up time in S1 and McLaren took it away in S2 and S3 there because we had no tires left and were overheating.

Max also left it late in 2023 and it was great to watch then. P4 was the best possible. Max also failed to improve on his last run and that's probably on him.
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Paa wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:23
I just don't get why they left it for so late? McLaren easily got 2 fast laps from the tyre. P4 could have been doable, but probably not much more.
Also this was very high risk for if someone crashes.
don't know tbh, P4 is almost 3 tenths ahead, don't know where they could find them

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It could have been worse. A lot of cars can fit in a 7 tenth gap. PIA is not too far away.
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Sergej wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:25
Paa wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:23
I just don't get why they left it for so late? McLaren easily got 2 fast laps from the tyre. P4 could have been doable, but probably not much more.
Also this was very high risk for if someone crashes.
don't know tbh, P4 is almost 3 tenths ahead, don't know where they could find them
On mediums Max would been at least p4, maybe even p3.

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Sergej wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:25
Paa wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:23
I just don't get why they left it for so late? McLaren easily got 2 fast laps from the tyre. P4 could have been doable, but probably not much more.
Also this was very high risk for if someone crashes.
don't know tbh, P4 is almost 3 tenths ahead, don't know where they could find them
We did not see, but Verstappens's S2 was yellow and he lost like 0.5 there, so probably there was a mistake.
With a bit more margin, he could have just back off there, go for a coold down lap and then have an other go. But leaving it for so late did not make this possible.

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Paa wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:27
Sergej wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:25
Paa wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:23
I just don't get why they left it for so late? McLaren easily got 2 fast laps from the tyre. P4 could have been doable, but probably not much more.
Also this was very high risk for if someone crashes.
don't know tbh, P4 is almost 3 tenths ahead, don't know where they could find them
We did not see, but Verstappens's S2 was yellow and he lost like 0.5 there, so probably there was a mistake.
With a bit more margin, he could have just back off there, go for a coold down lap and then have an other go. But leaving it for so late did not make this possible.
Wide in the hairpin and the turn before the hairpin. Probably mistakes but he sent 18.2 first sector (2 tenths up on anything previous) and probably killed the C6. A case of going much faster in 1 sector punishing the others.
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Sergej wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:25
Paa wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:23
I just don't get why they left it for so late? McLaren easily got 2 fast laps from the tyre. P4 could have been doable, but probably not much more.
Also this was very high risk for if someone crashes.
don't know tbh, P4 is almost 3 tenths ahead, don't know where they could find them
Max was only half a tenth off the McLaren's at the end of S1. He was also a 18.2 and gained a few tenths there itself relative to his previous lap. S2 through the hairpin to the tunnel is where he likely lost most of the time.

I think we didn't see the potential of the car in part because it's tricky to get the car working well with the C6 tires and in part because Max likely fluffed the last lap.
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