2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Luscion wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:22
Hopefully Ham doesnt get a penalty, impeding wasnt that bad and was wrong info from Adami
Do stewards care if it was the race engineer or the driver? I think not. That’s like not taking a penalty for unsafe release in the pit lane because the driver had nothing to do with it

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Monaco is always a bit of a "throwaway" circuit when it comes to extracting meaningful data regarding the pecking order.

People often try to judge Monaco by car's pace in low speed corners in previous races, but that never holds up, because Monaco is a bit of a special circuit. While on other circuits the cars are almost always setup with some compromise in consideration (and that compromise depends from team to team), in Monaco there is no compromise. The car is setup entirely in one direction.

It's funny that Ferrari thought they wouldn't be good here, whereas Andrea Stella called it in FP1 already that they (McLaren) thought Ferrari would be really strong around here. People laughed on his comments, but he was spot on.
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deadhead wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:57
Luscion wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:22
Hopefully Ham doesnt get a penalty, impeding wasnt that bad and was wrong info from Adami
Do stewards care if it was the race engineer or the driver? I think not. That’s like not taking a penalty for unsafe release in the pit lane because the driver had nothing to do with it
Penalty or not...44 is way too slow in the 2nd seat. Charles is carrying the entire team on his back. We need a sure replacement for 44. Oliver is around....

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My opinion, since Monte Carlo does not has a lot fast curves GeS was able to run the SF25 low enough to generate fair amount of aero load and not to "eat" the skid block/board.
If this is a case then it is clear that SF25 has very good potential not exploited for obvious reasons as Vanja #66 explained.

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Jdn1327 wrote:
24 May 2025, 18:00
deadhead wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:57
Luscion wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:22
Hopefully Ham doesnt get a penalty, impeding wasnt that bad and was wrong info from Adami
Do stewards care if it was the race engineer or the driver? I think not. That’s like not taking a penalty for unsafe release in the pit lane because the driver had nothing to do with it
Penalty or not...44 is way too slow in the 2nd seat. Charles is carrying the entire team on his back. We need a sure replacement for 44. Oliver is around....
Lewis and charles have finished right next to eachother in the last two races and are 5th and 6th in the standings rn but sure sack him i guess

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FDD wrote:
24 May 2025, 18:04
My opinion, since Monte Carlo does not has a lot fast curves GeS was able to run the SF25 low enough to generate fair amount of aero load and not to "eat" the skid block/board.
If this is a case then it is clear that SF25 has very good potential not exploited for obvious reasons as Vanja #66 explained.
People have dunked on Vasseur because he has phrased things somewhat "aggressively", in a tone which suggested criticism towards the drivers, but the thing is, he hasn't been wrong. There is potential in this car. Those couple of sessions where they were running with no (or little) compromise have proven that. If the suspension upgrade proves successful, we could see a resurgence from Ferrari in the second half of the season.

It's just a shame the SF25 started out mechanically handicapped. This car could have won a race or 2 this season already if it was running optimally, or at the very least, be on par with Max/RedBull.
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As i told you we needed a disasterclass by McL which didn't happen.
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Whoever is saying 44 needs to replaced is just trolling. Hamilton is doing very well and driving wisely. Has not crashed out of a session or underperformed like Sainz or Antonelli who were claimed the better options. His approach is smart, takes his time and acclimatize and slowly get up to Charles pace.
It makes no sense follow Charles in Monaco, Charles is taking extreme risks each time in Q3 as he has admitted. Charles in Monaco is Hamilton in Silverstone, he finds an extra gear. Q3 is enough for Lewis. P4 only behind a McLaren is a job well done.
A good showing so far by both Ferraris, crucially outqualifying a McLaren and the other outqualifying a Red Bull.
Hopefully there is no penalty as Max's last Q3 lap was not impeded.

The relative improvement in pace is from the Monaco setup for all teams. No need to compromise the suspension for a wider range of high to low speeds. The Ferrari can be setup lower without fear of very high downforce generated by high speeds and the other teams are probably a little higher to deal with the bumpiness of the surface. So the ride height and platform control for Monaco is in a smaller range of which the SF25 is happy to operating in.
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The move from Mercedes seem to be a wise move for LH. Ferrari are slowly improving while Mercedes are having a few hiccups with electronic parts reliability and inability to get on top of tyre management on warm circuits.

Another thing that is helping Ferrari is their power unit. the PU is hauling the car quicker up the hill relative to the other teams and this characteristic is also helping the Haas and Sauber who seem to be more competitive here.
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Fred doesnt think Lewis will get a penalty, but ofc he would say that, lets see
Penalty for Hamilton? No, honestly, I don't think he'll get a penalty because Max was on his line and compared to this morning, they didn't put Antonelli and Ocon under investigation when there was a big accident for our car because we were in the same turn, so I don't think there will be anything.

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ringo wrote:
24 May 2025, 18:42
Another thing that is helping Ferrari is their power unit. the PU is hauling the car quicker up the hill relative to the other teams and this characteristic is also helping the Haas and Sauber who seem to be more competitive here.
shorter gearing in the lower gears - has always been the case, atleast in the GE era.

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is hamilton getting penalty or not? why they taking so much time...

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Fakepivot wrote:
24 May 2025, 19:07
is hamilton getting penalty or not? why they taking so much time...
It's a pen, 3 place. Confirmed.

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Cs98 wrote:
24 May 2025, 19:11
Fakepivot wrote:
24 May 2025, 19:07
is hamilton getting penalty or not? why they taking so much time...
It's a pen, 3 place. Confirmed.
damn, Adami screwed him