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[venkyhere]

Guys, did anyone realistically expect pole from the RB21 ? if yes, wasn't it because of the 'hope' that Imola gave ? But Imola has fast and medium corners, here there is only a little bit of that in S1, and there the car was on par with Mclarens - the 18.2. Even without looking at data, I bet the 'losses' were through the low speed 'descent' from T5 to T8, through the lowe's hairpin. The fundamental problem with the RB21 (and the RB20, and the RB19 , and the RB18) - slow speed rotation without aero, purely from mech.grip - that's never gone. Kerb riding got a bit improved with Imola update, but slow speed weakness is still on the table.
This race was a writeoff anyway (just like Singapore is) with no 'Redbull redeeming' corners that are above 200kph - so relax, guys. Finishing P5 will not be a disaster result. Plus we know the race is an even bigger lottery now, than ever before. Who knows, the P5 can become P2 or even P10. Just 'dial out' this race and watch for enjoyment tomorrow. Both cars need to make it back "alive" without crashing, and be on the points. It isn't worth it, pushing to the ragged edge on a track that simply doesn't suit the suspension design philosophy of the car, right from it's birth.

Amazing analysis, keep up the good work.

Max Monaco Q3 in ground effect era :
2022 with RB18 - 1.11.666 = P4
2023 with RB19 - 1.11.365 = P1
2024 with RB20 - 1.10.567 = P6
2025 with RB21 - 1.10.669 = P5

Teams like Ferrari and Mclaren have 'upped the slow corner game' such that they are able to produce 1.10.0 laptime, while the Redbull is simply hitting a ceiling around 1.10.5 (even the RB20 that was a 'worse' car than the RB19 hit this ceiling). It just goes to show how 'good car' or 'bad car' or 'terrible car' is all 'relative performance' w.r.t others, it's not an absolute.

[Sergej]

We're in Hannah's hands

[napoleon1981]

This race will get interesting if we dont get safetycars, vscs and red flags. I think the name of the game is to stay out as long as you can and stop when there is some sort of neutralization. You can't pass those up to change tires. I'm sure some people will take early tires just to roll the dice, but the track position loss will kill you is my take.

[Cs98]

Car is the same as last year. Decent in S1 and S3, useless in S2. But that's in quali, in race pace I still think the car can be good. Whether they will get to use that pace is a different question. I'm expecting a penalty for Hamilton, so Max will likely move up to P4.

[AR3-GP]

Car is the same as last year. Decent in S1 and S3, useless in S2. But that's in quali, in race pace I still think the car can be good. Whether they will get to use that pace is a different question. I'm expecting a penalty for Hamilton, so Max will likely move up to P4.

I think the car is better than last year. They just don't work on the C6 and the C6 was not used last year. He would have been much closer if everyone qualified on C5.

[venkyhere]

We're in Hannah's hands

HAD P6
LAW P9
TSU P12
three 'rear gunner'-s available, to play a notty game if the chance presents itself.

[Cs98]

Car is the same as last year. Decent in S1 and S3, useless in S2. But that's in quali, in race pace I still think the car can be good. Whether they will get to use that pace is a different question. I'm expecting a penalty for Hamilton, so Max will likely move up to P4.

I think the car is better than last year. They just don't work on the C6 and the C6 was not used last year. He would have been much closer if everyone qualified on C5.

Car is the same as last year... in Monaco. It has the exact same strengths and weaknesses sector by sector. Good in S1 when the tyre is alive, strong through Massenet (though McLaren has clearly improved massively there compared to 2024), absolutely terrible in the slow and twisty bits of S2 where it's all front grip, and then okay but not great in the final sector depending on the condition of the tyre. Oh, and the car still bounces like a kangaroo in slow corners on quali runs.

[AR3-GP]

Car is the same as last year. Decent in S1 and S3, useless in S2. But that's in quali, in race pace I still think the car can be good. Whether they will get to use that pace is a different question. I'm expecting a penalty for Hamilton, so Max will likely move up to P4.

I think the car is better than last year. They just don't work on the C6 and the C6 was not used last year. He would have been much closer if everyone qualified on C5.

Car is the same as last year... in Monaco. It has the exact same strengths and weaknesses sector by sector. Good in S1 when the tyre is alive, strong through Massenet (though McLaren has clearly improved massively there compared to 2024), absolutely terrible in the slow and twisty bits of S2 where it's all front grip, and then okay but not great in the final sector depending on the condition of the tyre.

I still disagree. The car was jumping like a kangaroo last year. Their pace on the medium tire was competitive, just as it was in Imola. The C6 is where it all came undone.

[AR3-GP]

Max's best FP3 run on the medium with more fuel, (1.11.2) was quicker than Leclerc's Q2 run on the medium (1.11.3). The soft (C6) is where they lost all competitiveness imo. Even through free practice you could see when everyone was on the medium that Max arguably had the best pace.

[SirBastianVettel]

I wish Pirelli would let the teams choose the tire compounds again.

[AR3-GP]

3 place grid drop for Hamilton. Max starts P4 on inside line.

[Sergej]

Max on P4, good.

[Sergej]

3 place grid drop for Hamilton. Max starts P4 on inside line.

odd places are on the inside, even places on the outside.

[AR3-GP]

3 place grid drop for Hamilton. Max starts P4 on inside line.

odd places are on the inside, even places on the outside.

I always mess that up...

[Cs98]

Being on the back of Piastri makes things A LOT more interesting strategically. Leaders shouldn't be running away from P4.