2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

[vorticism]

It's too bad George isn't noticing context yet. "That's how Max goes racin'." Bravo, George. You now need to wake up. You're years past schedule at this point. Max is making statements about the ill factors in the sport in the ways that he can, by speaking on track with his wheel and pedals; no other drivers have backbone to do that.

[purestpurist]

Anyone thinking stewards have anti Verstappen agenda just need to look at this incident.

This should have been an immediate black flag. I am still hoping they investigate further, get the team statements and make additional decisions.

The FIA decided in 2021 punting your championship opponent out of the race is only a 10 second penalty, and this was fairly tame compared to that.

[pantherxxx]

So Verstappen was involved in 3 incidents. Of these, Verstappen was at fault in only 1 and was penalised for that. The other 2 where the other driver was at fault were not penalised. It was the incident that was penalised that happened at the lowest speed and where there was the least danger. Congratulations to the FIA.

[ringo]

Next Vettel RB is cooking. I would say, it is RB failure . They did it with Vettel and now Max. It is a reminder of Vettel vs Ham. Not good for sport.

It's worse. Vettels hit into Lewis was purely frustration. It was not to cripple Lewis' car. He could not have put him out of the race by hitting into a crash structure.
Max's intent was to damage a floor or radiator. Which really should be a black flag and more than 3 penalty points.
The FIA actually made sure he got points; which sends the wrong message.
So much so he earned driver of the day.

[michl420]

After the race, it must be said that a 3 stop strategie looks to be the fastet?!

[ringo]

Lap 61, Leclerc drives into Verstappen, no penalty for Leclerc. Textbook. Verstappen was driving straight, Leclerc deviates from his line right into him. Right after, Russel makes his move on the inside to take the corner, taking advantage of this year’s Stewards Guide (effectively a secondary Sporting Regulations not made available to the public); Russel was within 1m behind Verstappen at the apex, which means he was ahead at the apex according to the Stewards Guide. Hence Max’s claim on the radio “I was ahead of him”, which he was as any driver in that scenario would be, it’s just that the SG says “front axle beside mirrors = ahead” i.e. 1m behind = ahead. Reminded of that, because it seems even he forgot about the new SG not-a-rule rule, I think what Max then did on Lap 64 was to give the stewards a --- test. Max was ahead at the apex, truly ahead, not even behind-ahead like the SG allows. And guess what. The stewards didn't uphold the rule they upheld three laps prior.

The precedent set this season, and even just three laps before with Russel, was that the inside driver can push the outside driver off including bumping into him in the process, as George had just done. Because "he has the corner," the "corner is his." Stewards failed the --- test, though, as they failed to enforce the same rule for Max.

Charles was on the racing line and veering over to take the corner the fastest way, Max was purposely going straight to cause contact, because he knew he was going to be passed. He had enough time to avoid contact, but just left his car there, using his wheels as the weapon as usual.

[ToffeeTyres]

So Verstappen was involved in 3 incidents. Of these, Verstappen was at fault in only 1 and was penalised for that. The other 2 where the other driver was at fault were not penalised. It was the incident that was penalised that happened at the lowest speed and where there was the least danger. Congratulations to the FIA.

Max rammed into a competitor through anger and retaliation and was penalised but should have been black flagged. You can’t do that it is dangerous and also sets a bad precedent where younger and all drivers can just ram other drivers and think they will only get a 10 second penalty things can end up bad where someone gets seriously injured or killed. If you can’t see Max did no wrong here you seriously need to either open your eyes or get them tested!

[Matt2725]

Lap 61, Leclerc drives into Verstappen, no penalty for Leclerc. Textbook. Verstappen was driving straight, Leclerc deviates from his line right into him. Right after, Russel makes his move on the inside to take the corner, taking advantage of this year’s Stewards Guide (effectively a secondary Sporting Regulations not made available to the public); Russel was within 1m behind Verstappen at the apex, which means he was ahead at the apex according to the Stewards Guide. Hence Max’s claim on the radio “I was ahead of him”, which he was as any driver in that scenario would be, it’s just that the SG says “front axle beside mirrors = ahead” i.e. 1m behind = ahead. Reminded of that, because it seems even he forgot about the new SG not-a-rule rule, I think what Max then did on Lap 64 was to give the stewards a --- test. Max was ahead at the apex, truly ahead, not even behind-ahead like the SG allows. And guess what. The stewards didn't uphold the rule they upheld three laps prior.

The precedent set this season, and even just three laps before with Russel, was that the inside driver can push the outside driver off including bumping into him in the process, as George had just done. Because "he has the corner," the "corner is his." Stewards failed the --- test, though, as they failed to enforce the same rule for Max.

Charles was on the racing line and veering over to take the corner the fastest way, Max was purposely going straight to cause contact, because he knew he was going to be passed. He had enough time to avoid contact, but just left his car there, using his wheels as the weapon as usual.

I'm no fan of Max but there is nothing that says Max has to move over to let Charles take a better line into a corner.

[DChemTech]

Lap 61, Leclerc drives into Verstappen, no penalty for Leclerc. Textbook. Verstappen was driving straight, Leclerc deviates from his line right into him. Right after, Russel makes his move on the inside to take the corner, taking advantage of this year’s Stewards Guide (effectively a secondary Sporting Regulations not made available to the public); Russel was within 1m behind Verstappen at the apex, which means he was ahead at the apex according to the Stewards Guide. Hence Max’s claim on the radio “I was ahead of him”, which he was as any driver in that scenario would be, it’s just that the SG says “front axle beside mirrors = ahead” i.e. 1m behind = ahead. Reminded of that, because it seems even he forgot about the new SG not-a-rule rule, I think what Max then did on Lap 64 was to give the stewards a --- test. Max was ahead at the apex, truly ahead, not even behind-ahead like the SG allows. And guess what. The stewards didn't uphold the rule they upheld three laps prior.

The precedent set this season, and even just three laps before with Russel, was that the inside driver can push the outside driver off including bumping into him in the process, as George had just done. Because "he has the corner," the "corner is his." Stewards failed the --- test, though, as they failed to enforce the same rule for Max.

Charles was on the racing line and veering over to take the corner the fastest way, Max was purposely going straight to cause contact, because he knew he was going to be passed. He had enough time to avoid contact, but just left his car there, using his wheels as the weapon as usual.

One can debate whether or not Leclerc was at fault or this was a racing incident with both drivers contributing, but this take is just plain and utter nonsense.

[vorticism]

So Verstappen was involved in 3 incidents. Of these, Verstappen was at fault in only 1 and was penalised for that. The other 2 where the other driver was at fault were not penalised. It was the incident that was penalised that happened at the lowest speed and where there was the least danger. Congratulations to the FIA.

Max rammed into a competitor through anger and retaliation and was penalised but should have been black flagged. You can’t do that it is dangerous and also sets a bad precedent where younger and all drivers can just ram other drivers and think they will only get a 10 second penalty things can end up bad where someone gets seriously injured or killed. If you can’t see Max did no wrong here you seriously need to either open your eyes or get them tested!

Max was ahead at the apex just like George was ahead at the apex three laps prior. Per the Stewards Guide the corner was his and George should have given space. George did not give space and yet you call this ramming (bumping tire carcasses together in glancing blow by the outside car not giving space to the inside car ahead at the apex, per '25 Stewards Guide). The stewards failed to uphold their own rules in not punishing George for the lap 64 contact involving a corner which was not his, with him being behind at the apex.

[purestpurist]

Anyone thinking stewards have anti Verstappen agenda just need to look at this incident.

This should have been an immediate black flag. I am still hoping they investigate further, get the team statements and make additional decisions.

The FIA decided in 2021 punting your championship opponent out of the race is only a 10 second penalty, and this was fairly tame compared to that.

Even worse, earlier the same year they decided punting your opponent into the barrier at high enough speed they lose consciousness on impact was only worth a 0 second penalty. Gasp.

That's what I was referring to (lewis got a 10 second penalty when he should've been black flagged + suspended for a race), I think we're on the same team here.

[fritticaldi]

What a complete joke the FIA and Formula One has become. Ban Verstappen minimum two races. This is the trademark of a multiple world champion? Verstappen is a disgrace to the sport and the FIA is protecting him. FIA's Double Standards.

[Hoffman900]

The FIA decided in 2021 punting your championship opponent out of the race is only a 10 second penalty, and this was fairly tame compared to that.

Even worse, earlier the same year they decided punting your opponent into the barrier at high enough speed they lose consciousness on impact was only worth a 0 second penalty. Gasp.

That's what I was referring to (lewis got a 10 second penalty when he should've been black flagged + suspended for a race), I think we're on the same team here.

F1 drivers / fans are massive pansies or something. In no series is Lewis / Max thing more than a racing incident. It was optimistic by Lewis but a racing incident. NASCAR and IndyCar see as big or bigger wrecks every weekend, so spare me the Max was fighting for his life BS. Those guys move on from it imemdiatey instead of whining about it for years….

Not sure what it is about Euro sports and the constant whinging. IndyCar fans are about ready to run Will Buxton out for making everything overly dramatic as well.


Slowing down and then letting off the brake to drive into a competitor is not a racing incident. That’s pre meditated and intential. Same as when he brake checked Lewis.

The guy is a fantastic driver, but it shouldn’t be shocking that the guy raised by a woman abuser has anger management issues and everyone around him is afraid to confront him on it for risk of a toddler tantrum.

[ToffeeTyres]

So Verstappen was involved in 3 incidents. Of these, Verstappen was at fault in only 1 and was penalised for that. The other 2 where the other driver was at fault were not penalised. It was the incident that was penalised that happened at the lowest speed and where there was the least danger. Congratulations to the FIA.

Max rammed into a competitor through anger and retaliation and was penalised but should have been black flagged. You can’t do that it is dangerous and also sets a bad precedent where younger and all drivers can just ram other drivers and think they will only get a 10 second penalty things can end up bad where someone gets seriously injured or killed. If you can’t see Max did no wrong here you seriously need to either open your eyes or get them tested!

No because when english drivers ram anyone else to the hospital you laud them as clean upstanding sportsmen.

Max today rammed intentionally in anger a retaliation. Hamilton was just a bad move to try an overtake a completely different circumstance! Max going to hospital was just to do checks because of the high G he wasn’t injured so stop making it out like he was badly injured he wasn’t it was just a formality for when drivers reach a certain. G. Plus quit repeating this comment all the time it’s old

[Quantum]

If only Max knew what every armchair experts knows... he might actually be a decent driver.

Not suggesting he isn't. Odd comment when this is literally a forum