2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[hollus]

I have noticed that Tsunoda is almost exactly 6 tenths off Verstappen in most sessions. No change during the weekend, no matter the circuit length. Most sessions, not all, I guess.
Unfortunately for him,
a) the gap is not shrinking,
b) 6 tenths means a lot of positions from where Verstappen is now. In 2023 this would have meant consistent podiums

[ringo]

it may require Max to shed some light or provide some pointers to Yuki, or that Yuki needs to study footage and data of the fundamental differences between his and Max's driving, particularly driving line, braking points, and steering inputs.

This. Max is basically a racing nerd or genius. It's part of his competitive advantage and I think he simply will not share one ounce of guidance to any teammate. Maybe when he is older and that a different stage of his career. But a lot of the pace difference is in the team's knowledge and Max's experience and how the two meet in the middle. It's not purely down to talent.
I don't do sim racing, video games (anymore) or real life racing, but imagine setting up a car for a circuit and you don't even know the first place to start in terms of setup and balance etc. Max seems to be one of those game nerds that can tweak everything perfectly and the most complex and expert level. He is doing that in the real F-1 car too, and it may well be his intellectual property that Red Bull respectfully doesn't share.
They may need to share a little bit with Yuki and whoever partners Max next year. It's going to annoy Max, but it's a team effort.
This is premised on my assumptions though. It may not even be a thing, but it's based on Max's passion for sim racing. All of those hours must amount to some level of expertise at car setup.

[Espresso]

In the paddock Max is a bit the ‚Mama Bear‘ watching over the young ones. Helping them out. Just as his own race team. He likes to help when he has time.

Yuki has full access to Max his data during a race weekend has always been open about that.
But understand Max is focusing on his performance in a race weekend…and not on tutoring.

[langedweil]

It's part of his competitive advantage and I think he simply will not share one ounce of guidance to any teammate.

And another one ..
I tend to start seeing a pattern; it's kinda like confusing opinions with real life matters.

Anyway, to your point: au contraire ..
Like Espresso and the whole world states: everything is being shared, but sharing apparently ain't enough to improve things with this dog of a car.

[Watto]

it may require Max to shed some light or provide some pointers to Yuki, or that Yuki needs to study footage and data of the fundamental differences between his and Max's driving, particularly driving line, braking points, and steering inputs.

This. Max is basically a racing nerd or genius. It's part of his competitive advantage and I think he simply will not share one ounce of guidance to any teammate. Maybe when he is older and that a different stage of his career. But a lot of the pace difference is in the team's knowledge and Max's experience and how the two meet in the middle. It's not purely down to talent.
I don't do sim racing, video games (anymore) or real life racing, but imagine setting up a car for a circuit and you don't even know the first place to start in terms of setup and balance etc. Max seems to be one of those game nerds that can tweak everything perfectly and the most complex and expert level. He is doing that in the real F-1 car too, and it may well be his intellectual property that Red Bull respectfully doesn't share.
They may need to share a little bit with Yuki and whoever partners Max next year. It's going to annoy Max, but it's a team effort.
This is premised on my assumptions though. It may not even be a thing, but it's based on Max's passion for sim racing. All of those hours must amount to some level of expertise at car setup.

Not sure I agree with this, I think Max is just a bit of an introvert in the public eye he can come off as a little selfish for it, I think he's far more relaxed on his streams when he's just really talking to his team mates/sim team

Seen it with other athletes before come across as very cold and I'd say selfish in the public eye but meet them where they are comfortable or talk to people that have meet them when they are in similar social circles and they can be very different people I think that's a lot more where Max is.

[ringo]

I do not think he is selfish. I just feel he is very competitive and rightfully will not give away any helping tips to his first rival, his teammate. Those tips stay with drivers for their career. No need to permanently strengthen Yuki.
There is much gleaned from engineering data, but nothing beats learning from a teacher who's done it before. Almost like reading a text book, but not having the youtube video with an experienced person to explain what really happens.

[Alexf1]

You can share all you want but if the other person doesn't have the type of sensor to feel your high level of sensitivity it's useless. Like Jim Clark once asked: why are the others not doing what I'm doing. On which the answer was: because they don't feel what you feel.

[Dee]

I do not think he is selfish. I just feel he is very competitive and rightfully will not give away any helping tips to his first rival, his teammate. Those tips stay with drivers for their career. No need to permanently strengthen Yuki.
There is much gleaned from engineering data, but nothing beats learning from a teacher who's done it before. Almost like reading a text book, but not having the youtube video with an experienced person to explain what really happens.

Doesn't Max share all his data and setups? I have seen it said multiple times that he does. There is nothing more he can do then to help...

[ringo]

I do not think he is selfish. I just feel he is very competitive and rightfully will not give away any helping tips to his first rival, his teammate. Those tips stay with drivers for their career. No need to permanently strengthen Yuki.
There is much gleaned from engineering data, but nothing beats learning from a teacher who's done it before. Almost like reading a text book, but not having the youtube video with an experienced person to explain what really happens.

Doesn't Max share all his data and setups? I have seen it said multiple times that he does. There is nothing more he can do then to help...

He himself does not share anything. He has admitted as much with Perez.
The team are free to share data of course.
But driver to driver tips m. Never heard of that from Max.

[organic]

I do not think he is selfish. I just feel he is very competitive and rightfully will not give away any helping tips to his first rival, his teammate. Those tips stay with drivers for their career. No need to permanently strengthen Yuki.
There is much gleaned from engineering data, but nothing beats learning from a teacher who's done it before. Almost like reading a text book, but not having the youtube video with an experienced person to explain what really happens.

Doesn't Max share all his data and setups? I have seen it said multiple times that he does. There is nothing more he can do then to help...

He himself does not share anything. He has admitted as much with Perez.
The team are free to share data of course.
But driver to driver tips m. Never heard of that from Max.

Which drivers are known to give tips to their teammates? It's not really expected outside of perhaps when rookies are alongside

He has always given the other side of the garage full access to his telemetry and setups which seems fair enough to me

[Seanspeed]

He himself does not share anything. He has admitted as much with Perez.
The team are free to share data of course.
But driver to driver tips m. Never heard of that from Max.

That's like the default standard in F1. Drivers will typically not go out of their way to help their teammate. So long as Max isn't making any kind of fuss trying to block the other driver from getting his data, then nothing he's doing here is particularly selfish or abnormal.

[Bill]

turn 14 Max is 0cm away from the wall ,he is taking risks and coming out of it unscathed its just not about car or driving talent its about precision .maybe spending countless hours on sim helps with that.

[Vettel165]

Would laugh my heart out if Max wins the next 3-4 races in the row. Imagine a nearly impossible scenario, and after that the WDC is again wide open. But we know the reality, maybe because the gap is nearly 50 points now the pressure is much lower then before. Sometimes being an outsider is better, lets see how the standings will look after Spa. If its the same then we can say congrats to Mclaren they did a better job.

[_cerber1]

turn 14 Max is 0cm away from the wall ,he is taking risks and coming out of it unscathed its just not about car or driving talent its about precision .maybe spending countless hours on sim helps with that.

You do understand that 0 centimeters means that he simply crashed into it, what kind of precision are you talking about?

[ringo]

He himself does not share anything. He has admitted as much with Perez.
The team are free to share data of course.
But driver to driver tips m. Never heard of that from Max.

That's like the default standard in F1. Drivers will typically not go out of their way to help their teammate. So long as Max isn't making any kind of fuss trying to block the other driver from getting his data, then nothing he's doing here is particularly selfish or abnormal.

Which is what I said if you read what I wrote. He does not share, and that's what's expected. He cannot block the data either, even if he wanted to. The engineers decide what is disseminated to the drivers.