2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[f1isgood]

Deg was terrible in the first two stints, quite good in the last one. Very puzzling.

China on repeat. The car is just weird. Last race was basically Max throwing away a chunk of points. This year is very weird. Need to take care of tires to have some good races from time to time. Tires are what have been an issue with the 20 and the 21.


It's clear that Mercedes car is good at Canada this regulation cycle. Likewise Silverstone, Hungary etc.

[Vettel165]

Deg was terrible in the first two stints, quite good in the last one. Very puzzling.

Maybe high-track temps caught them by suprise. As it was much warmer then on the friday, saturday.

[Cs98]

Whatever happened to my original post of stating that He just needs to follow over the finish line?
He didnt break on the finish straight.

Good on you for realising it didn't happen on the finish straight, not sure that was ever in dispute, you may have misunderstood what I was saying there.

Additionally, I can give you 10 examples over the last 5 years were the lead driver brakes AFTER the safety car lights go out. Happens all the time. Clearly ONLY now it matters though right?

Cool, what does that have to do with George phoning it in to the principal's office to report on a situation that he caused? I take issue with George trying to get Max penalised with a cheap brake check, I never said it reached the level where George should be penalised.

[Rikhart]

Or just follow the car over the finish line. Easy to see that Russell didnt brake and kept a steady pace. Not hard is it.

Russel ABSOLUTELY, VERY CLEARLY, braked extremely hard and then made a very silly radio call that he was overtaken.

Happens all the time. Why moan about it now?

I have no idea what you're on about now, I just saw a blatant lie and corrected it, that's all.

[FNTC]

The driver and team representative are required to report to the Stewards at 17:50, in relation to the
incident below:
No / Driver 63 - George Russell
Reason Protests lodged by Oracle Red Bull Racing against the driver of Car 63.

Red Bull has protested against George, LOL. Assuming it's the hard braking behind safety car.

[chrisc90]

Most likely that or the fact George didn’t keep 10 car lengths behind the safety car on multiple occasions.

To me - it’s a bang fair protest

[venkyhere]

Nice try. FIA don't have the balls to penalize P1 winner (even if they wanted to) as it will be a marketing disaster, especially in this Liberty media era.

[Sergej]

would be quite hilarious if this leads to a Max ban for overtaking under SC

[Matt2725]

Most likely that or the fact George didn’t keep 10 car lengths behind the safety car on multiple occasions.

To me - it’s a bang fair protest

It'll come to nothing with the yellow flag delta George had on his dash at the time the safety car moved off ahead.

RBR just looking to set precedent for the future I guess.

[FNTC]

The hard braking to trick Max into going past him, then immediately going on the radio to complain, after saying pre race that he has more penalty points to play with, shows intent and that it was deliberate. Extremely bad sportsmanship. Just imagine if the roles were reversed. Should at least get reprimanded.

[chrisc90]

Most likely that or the fact George didn’t keep 10 car lengths behind the safety car on multiple occasions.

To me - it’s a bang fair protest

It'll come to nothing with the yellow flag delta George had on his dash at the time the safety car moved off ahead.

RBR just looking to set precedent for the future I guess.

Only delta I know of for yellow flags is under VSC?
Why would you need a delta for following the safety car? The safety car sets the pace that’s safe at that point on track. No need to be 5s on your delta or behind it. The rule is 10 car lengths maximum behind the safety car.

[McLarenHonda]

This is why I call this team toxic basically! They lose fair and square on track yet they try to find a way to win off it! Sore losers…

Even Max said it was ok:
But Verstappen had seemingly played it down.

"I think we were both trying to say to the safety car to speed up because he was only going 120km/h [75mph] but I think maybe the safety car is doing that to give a bit more time to maybe get a race lap in," said Verstappen.

"Then I think George was trying to speed up to the safety car, I was trying to do the same.

"Once he tried to speed up the safety car he then backed out and it caused a bit of confusion."

[CjC]

This is why I call this team toxic basically! They lose fair and square on track yet they try to find a way to win off it! Sore losers…

Even Max said it was ok:
But Verstappen had seemingly played it down.

"I think we were both trying to say to the safety car to speed up because he was only going 120km/h [75mph] but I think maybe the safety car is doing that to give a bit more time to maybe get a race lap in," said Verstappen.

"Then I think George was trying to speed up to the safety car, I was trying to do the same.

"Once he tried to speed up the safety car he then backed out and it caused a bit of confusion."

I believe Horner has delayed his press conference. No doubt he’s printing off all of his pictures again

[Matt2725]

Most likely that or the fact George didn’t keep 10 car lengths behind the safety car on multiple occasions.

To me - it’s a bang fair protest

It'll come to nothing with the yellow flag delta George had on his dash at the time the safety car moved off ahead.

RBR just looking to set precedent for the future I guess.

Only delta I know of for yellow flags is under VSC?
Why would you need a delta for following the safety car? The safety car sets the pace that’s safe at that point on track. No need to be 5s on your delta or behind it. The rule is 10 car lengths maximum behind the safety car.

You posted the onboards yourself I believe earlier. Russell confirmed he had a yellow flag delta on his dash, likely due to double yellows at T1-2.

SC didn't follow that delta for whatever reason. Once George cleared T2, he caught the SC immediately again.

[chrisc90]

Maybe Russell got confused with the VSC delta? Far as im aware, a yellow on track means slow down and be prepared to take action if the incident on track means you have to. Normally thats lift off a lot, slow down and be prepared to stop. Ive no idea what delta Russell is on about when he mentions it, apart from the one thats necessary under a VSC when the whole course is neutralised and cars must drive to their 'delta'

Behind the Safety car, that car becomes your 'delta', given the fact the SC is there to control the pace on track allowing the incident to be cleared and for the rest of the grid to form a line behind it. If there was a yellow flag delta, then when the lapped cars may now overtake message (allowing them to catch up to the back of the pack) would mean that those cars wouldnt be able to catch back up at racing speed. There is no delta behind the SC as far as im aware.