2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Seanspeed]

finally lewis is making changes in the team, 7 years with no title

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One of the most ridiculous comments I've heard from him...

Well I think what he’s saying is that they need to listen to Lewis’ feedback on car design in order to build a competitive car that works in all conditions. Charles can drive around problems very well and perhaps this is taking them down more extreme directions. It doesn’t mean that, if they build a more benign car that’s to Lewis’ liking, they would favour him and it could well be to Charles’ advantage to have such a car anyway.

That’s how I read it, anyway.

I think you're interpreting it extremely generously, when JPM likely meant exactly what he said. He's never been the brightest guy.

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I wonder to what extent Elkann and Vigna are receiving feedback via Hamilton, which may be playing a role in their decision to potentially not extend Vasseur.

That'd be quite the story, if Hamilton is playing a role in the departure of the man who brought him in.

Purely wondering aloud, here ... not based on any reporting.

this is an insane take, why in the world would Lewis want Fred gone? they have a past with Lewis racing under him in his early career, he's said Fred is a big reason he's at Ferrari and came out this weekend very clearly defending Fred and saying he wants him at Ferrari. If anything it feels like Ham is pushing for an culture shift for Ferrari so Fred can just do his job instead of being bothered by the top brass

Right, I see your perspective, but I wonder if it's more nuanced than you're suggesting.

Check out this quote from Hamilton after this weekend:

"I wish I could tell you what's happening. There's a lot going on in the background. Yeah, I can't say too much about it. There are so many things I wish I could tell you to explain. The things that have happened this year, the problems we had, whats going on within the organization. My goal is to try to positively influence to get change and get long term success. There are a lot of changes to be made."

I can't help but read that and wonder if there are internal issues, be in technical, operational, etc, that Hamilton (based on his time at Mercedes) has identified as problematic and the ultimate responsibility for those gaps is falling on Vasseur (directly or indirectly).

Yes, Hamilton is clearly grateful to Vasseur for the opportunity, but one can easily observe how quickly Hamilton changes his tune (in all circumstances) when frustrated, disappointed, emotionally aroused, etc; just look at the way he has interacted with Adami, at times.

I have little doubt Hamilton would have any issue pointing the finger at Vasseur in the process of identifying what he feels is wrong at Ferrari (or, to put it another way, what he feels is preventing him from achieving success at Ferrari).

I should reiterate that I am speculating here (within the context of what we already know and has been said).

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Vasseur is just saying to not throw away the baby and the bath water.

He doesn’t want the team to bet all they have on a one update only and lose focus on other areas of improvement.

Hardly shocking.

[evered7]

Can understand Vasseur trying not to pin to much hopes on the upgrade. The car was supposed to be faster until the ride height issue revealed itself after it hit the track.

To hype up the upgrade and for it to not achieve what it was supposed to, would be massive face loss.

He is cautious and trying to make the best of the situation.

Would extend him for another year simply for stability sake.

[Emag]

Couldn't follow the race live, but caught up with a replay today. Honestly, I don't understand what they were doing with Leclerc. P6 was pretty much guaranteed, I don't know why they didn't risk to try something different. Hard-Hard-Medium was pretty much the safest and mildest strategy they could have gone for to secure P6.

A bit "sus" that Leclerc's pace died out at the end there, but I will attribute most of it to the medium having high deg overall in the race. The first stint was quite strong and comparable with Lando, so that's a positive to take away.
As for Lewis, what can you say, so unlucky to get damage early on. I thought he was doing quite well on those first couple of laps.

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A bit "sus" that Leclerc's pace died out at the end there, but I will attribute most of it to the medium having high deg overall in the race. The first stint was quite strong and comparable with Lando, so that's a positive to take away.

Leclerc tried to get the fastest lap in the end, and missed out on it only because he misjudged the breaking point in the final corner. So there was still life left in the tires. A bit of an odd stint.

Generally, I think the strategy was alright. I doubt a one-stop would have led to a better result, and they were never close enough to undercut Piastri. This way, they at least had different tires in the end - even if those did not turn out to be fast enough.

[Seanspeed]

Can understand Vasseur trying not to pin to much hopes on the upgrade. The car was supposed to be faster until the ride height issue revealed itself after it hit the track.

Well the problem is that nobody is privy to the actual problems involved. There seems to be a tight gag order within Ferrari to not ever talk about any specific problems with the car whatsoever.

Which I just find frankly ridiculous. I know it's not totally unusual in F1, but what are they really worried about giving away here? It reeks of insecurity and brand protection rather than anything to do with giving hints to other teams, especially at the end of a regulation era where most every other team has stopped developing this concept anyways.

[CHT]

finally lewis is making changes in the team, 7 years with no title

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One of the most ridiculous comments I've heard from him...

Well I think what he’s saying is that they need to listen to Lewis’ feedback on car design in order to build a competitive car that works in all conditions. Charles can drive around problems very well and perhaps this is taking them down more extreme directions. It doesn’t mean that, if they build a more benign car that’s to Lewis’ liking, they would favour him and it could well be to Charles’ advantage to have such a car anyway.

That’s how I read it, anyway.

This sounds like a Mike Elliott 2.0 to me. Perhaps FIA should listen to Lewis and tweak the technical regulation to make it more comfortable for LH.

[ENGINE TUNER]

I dont think that was the case. Sainz was almost more vocal than Charles. No team other than redbull focuses only on one driver. Sainz and Leclerc were equal in Ferrari. For the hype thing, every year Ferrari hype is huge compared to other teams, it is nothing to do with Lewis. Making a complete new car was the biggest mistake for Ferrari. Their 2024 car was good enough, I am sure they could have make it better this year. Both Leclerc and Hamilton is constantly in argument with their engineers in the radio. It doesnt bode well. I think Ferrari needs to make some changes, I am not talking about the Fred. Maybe driver engineers first, then other stuff.

If the changes made from the 24 car to the 25 car were made in order to test for the 26 car, then it was the correct call.

[venkyhere]

Leclerc tried to get the fastest lap in the end, and missed out on it only because he misjudged the breaking point in the final corner. So there was still life left in the tires. A bit of an odd stint.

Why ? the fastest lap has no 'value' anymore, it doesn't carry the 1 extra point like previous years.

[MattLightBlue]

Leclerc tried to get the fastest lap in the end, and missed out on it only because he misjudged the breaking point in the final corner. So there was still life left in the tires. A bit of an odd stint.

Why ? the fastest lap has no 'value' anymore, it doesn't carry the 1 extra point like previous years.

To me they simply realized after the pit stop that they were too far from Norris and managed the brake issue. The H-H-M strategy was simply a little slower than the M-H-H after all.

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Leclerc tried to get the fastest lap in the end, and missed out on it only because he misjudged the breaking point in the final corner. So there was still life left in the tires. A bit of an odd stint.

Why ? the fastest lap has no 'value' anymore, it doesn't carry the 1 extra point like previous years.

that's what the team told Leclerc as well when he asked where the fastest lap is at. And then he went for it.

It's mainly an ego thing, I think. If possible, most of them like to set the fastest lap.

[Seanspeed]

Leclerc tried to get the fastest lap in the end, and missed out on it only because he misjudged the breaking point in the final corner. So there was still life left in the tires. A bit of an odd stint.

Why ? the fastest lap has no 'value' anymore, it doesn't carry the 1 extra point like previous years.

Oh wait, what? lol I thought they still had it and were only getting rid of it for next year. Shows how close I pay attention sometimes. There'd been a couple occasions this year where I was wondering why 'so and so' weren't pitting to get fastest lap.

[Luscion]

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Both drivers suffered brake temp problems, needing to do lift and coast, critical for Lewis' car despite slower pace due to floor damage, Leclerc's was mostly precautionary seeing the issues on ham's car, Ferrari expected lower temps.

The skid technical directive in Canada didn't impact Ferrari at all, until the upgrades arrive Ferrari will have to suffer with ride height issues and the SF-25 has been moved out of the windtunnel as of the spanish GP and focus is on next years car

[maxxer]

The people working in strategy at Ferrari should look at all the Schumacher races.
He decided when to come in and what tyres he wanted none of this plan a b or c nonsense