2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Luscion]

Notes from the Autoracer livestream via @FerrariF1FRA on twitter
(https://x.com/FerrariF1FRA/status/1934987162904154269)

Autoracer livestream

- What's surprising is that when Vasseur signed his contract with Ferrari, it was a 3-year deal. A contract that ends at the dawn of new regulations, and we recall that John Elkann declared in 2022 that Ferrari's ambition was to have a winning team by 2026.

- What we can think is that the internal struggles that we have already seen in the past within Ferrari are still relevant. When Vasseur arrived, it was Binotto's team. Now, he has brought many of his men (second and third-tier engineers), Loïc Serra, Jérôme d'Ambrosio and Lewis Hamilton. From what we understand, with the support of d'Ambrosio and Lewis, Vasseur is trying to do a total reset of Gestione Sportiva.

- Lewis Hamilton's words after Canada point in this direction. Vasseur may be going even harder than expected. Many of Binotto's loyal engineers have left. And Vasseur is trying to build the Ferrari he wants, perhaps the one Lewis Hamilton also wants. What we really hope to avoid is a new power struggle between those who stayed (close to Binotto) who seek to spread negative thoughts and those who arrived with Vasseur and want to follow the renewal. That would be serious because it destabilizes a stability that is necessary today.

- Seeing Lewis Hamilton appear a little "depressed" by the results on the track is not necessarily a bad thing. On the contrary, it means that he cares, he wants to transform this Ferrari from the inside out, with the support of Vasseur. Change the mentality: the timing of improvements to the car, operations on the track, the way of communicating.

- John Elkann chose Vasseur himself in 2022. Also due to a lack of alternatives: the first plan was Christian Horner (refused), Andreas Seidl (refused)... and Antonello Coletta. Coletta has already said no twice to Elkann. Never two without three, but he thinks it would be difficult to refuse if the offer comes to the table. If Elkann chooses to put Coletta, it would be a risk of entering a period of a bit of "emergency". Because the other name circulating is that of Christian Horner, even if all sources say that he is firmly attached to his position at Red Bull.

- What also comes into play is recruitment, which is very complicated at Ferrari. Ferrari is almost the only team completely outside England, and engineers have to move from one country to another to join Maranello. If Vasseur really needs to be replaced, then we need to go for a name of international class. A name that has a huge impact, like Christian Horner. So, yes, the change makes sense.

- Currently, no source knows what John Elkann has in mind. Even the latest articles that have come out, it's not very close to reality. It's important that John Elkann chooses to renew Vasseur's contract for three more years so that he can continue his process and turn Scuderia Ferrari into a new team. Something that no one has had the opportunity to do in recent years at Ferrari. Vasseur has this carte blanche. Arrivabene and Binotto didn't have the time and power that Vasseur has today.

- We are heading into extremely important weeks and months for the future of Ferrari. No one yet knows what John Elkann plans to do. Vasseur is experiencing his first media crisis since joining Ferrari. He will have to perform well in facing the media and, with the help of the two drivers, convince John Elkann to secure a new contract.

[HungarianRacer]

A bit "sus" that Leclerc's pace died out at the end there, but I will attribute most of it to the medium having high deg overall in the race. The first stint was quite strong and comparable with Lando, so that's a positive to take away.

Leclerc tried to get the fastest lap in the end, and missed out on it only because he misjudged the breaking point in the final corner. So there was still life left in the tires. A bit of an odd stint.

Generally, I think the strategy was alright. I doubt a one-stop would have led to a better result, and they were never close enough to undercut Piastri. This way, they at least had different tires in the end - even if those did not turn out to be fast enough.

When was this fastest lap attempt exactly? I checked the fastest laps and best sector times, Charles' PB was set on lap 57 (10 whole laps before the safety car), and the only sector he had a better time set in than George was the final one actually, his best sector times combined would've given him a 1:14.135, still marginally slower than the fastest lap of the race...

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When was this fastest lap attempt exactly? I checked the fastest laps and best sector times, Charles' PB was set on lap 57 (10 whole laps before the safety car), and the only sector he had a better time set in than George was the final one actually, his best sector times combined would've given him a 1:14.135, still marginally slower than the fastest lap of the race...

he asked during lap 63 (1:15.147, with traffic):

CL:What is the fastest lap?
F: It's 14.1, but doesn't count anymore.

and then went for it the laps after:

L64: 20.681 - 23.617 - 29.986 - 1:14.284
L65: 20.651 - 23.498

but didn't make the final corner:



Following lap was thereby ruined as well, and then the SC was deployed

[HungarianRacer]

When was this fastest lap attempt exactly? I checked the fastest laps and best sector times, Charles' PB was set on lap 57 (10 whole laps before the safety car), and the only sector he had a better time set in than George was the final one actually, his best sector times combined would've given him a 1:14.135, still marginally slower than the fastest lap of the race...

he asked during lap 63 (1:15.147, with traffic):

CL:What is the fastest lap?
F: It's 14.1, but doesn't count anymore.

and then went for it the laps after:

L64: 20.681 - 23.617 - 29.986 - 1:14.284
L65: 20.651 - 23.498

but didn't make the final corner:

https://i.imgur.com/VeyDiw7.png

Following lap was thereby ruined as well, and then the SC was deployed

So he sped up 3 laps before the SC, taking consecutive stabs at the fastest lap, no proper charge laps in-between... I find that a bit bizarre... Thanks, anyways!

[ScuderiaLeo]

Notes from the Autoracer livestream via @FerrariF1FRA on twitter
(https://x.com/FerrariF1FRA/status/1934987162904154269)

Thanks for the summary.

I remember saying a few weeks or months ago here that top engineers wouldn't want to join Ferrari because they'd need to move to Italy, and a few people said that's unlikely.

Well it's seeming more and more likely.

The fact is Maranello is a massively different environment from every other Formula 1 team. Joining Ferrari means uprooting your whole life and joining an unfamiliar work culture. I think Vasseur's method of cleaning house and trying to shift the culture closer to the other teams's is an important step for the future of the team.

The drivers will vouch for him to stay, but it's not up to them...

[Emag]

Notes from the Autoracer livestream via @FerrariF1FRA on twitter
(https://x.com/FerrariF1FRA/status/1934987162904154269)

Thanks for the summary.

I remember saying a few weeks or months ago here that top engineers wouldn't want to join Ferrari because they'd need to move to Italy, and a few people said that's unlikely.

Well it's seeming more and more likely.

The fact is Maranello is a massively different environment from every other Formula 1 team. Joining Ferrari means uprooting your whole life and joining an unfamiliar work culture. I think Vasseur's method of cleaning house and trying to shift the culture closer to the other teams's is an important step for the future of the team.

The drivers will vouch for him to stay, but it's not up to them...

I said something to that effect before. Basically, I think Ferrari has the resources to pull in any big name they want, just because they can afford to pay ridiculous sums of money. So from that perspective, it's "easy" to persuade the big names to join Ferrari. Of course, the other party needs to be interested in joining them as well, you cannot force someone to work for you. For certain high value individuals in the field, who have multiple options available to them, they are at a luxury of choosing what's their most comfortable working environment for them and I think that's what happened with Newey as well. I am pretty sure Ferrari did what they could (realistically) do to get him onboard. Adrian chose the other option.

Either way, in my opinion, the problem is just slightly lower in the hierarchy. The next tier of engineers who are on the background. The ones nobody hears about and the ones who are tied to the "9-5" daily job. That's where Ferrari is at a disadvantage because they're limited to the Italian pool of engineers, as it is much harder to convince someone to move to Italy with a "normal wage".

It's by no means the biggest problem Ferrari has, but I don't believe it should be discarded completely as something that has no effect at all. RedBull, Mercedes and McLaren have access to a much more competitive pool of engineers in the UK, because the job security and the job market for the "normal" individual interested in working in F1 is better over there.

[f1316]

Honestly, I think the complaints, finger pointing and talking about major systemic problems is overblown. There was a lot of progress last year and this year Ferrari are really no worse than Mercedes and Red Bull (both of whom are often touted for their successful team management). There’s an issue with the car and if they fix it and can start winning races again, all the supposed issues with culture and larger issues melt away.

[Hammerfist]

Notes from the Autoracer livestream via @FerrariF1FRA on twitter
(https://x.com/FerrariF1FRA/status/1934987162904154269)

Thanks for the summary.

I remember saying a few weeks or months ago here that top engineers wouldn't want to join Ferrari because they'd need to move to Italy, and a few people said that's unlikely.

Well it's seeming more and more likely.

The fact is Maranello is a massively different environment from every other Formula 1 team. Joining Ferrari means uprooting your whole life and joining an unfamiliar work culture. I think Vasseur's method of cleaning house and trying to shift the culture closer to the other teams's is an important step for the future of the team.

The drivers will vouch for him to stay, but it's not up to them...

I said something to that effect before. Basically, I think Ferrari has the resources to pull in any big name they want, just because they can afford to pay ridiculous sums of money. So from that perspective, it's "easy" to persuade the big names to join Ferrari. Of course, the other party needs to be interested in joining them as well, you cannot force someone to work for you. For certain high value individuals in the field, who have multiple options available to them, they are at a luxury of choosing what's their most comfortable working environment for them and I think that's what happened with Newey as well. I am pretty sure Ferrari did what they could (realistically) do to get him onboard. Adrian chose the other option.

Either way, in my opinion, the problem is just slightly lower in the hierarchy. The next tier of engineers who are on the background. The ones nobody hears about and the ones who are tied to the "9-5" daily job. That's where Ferrari is at a disadvantage because they're limited to the Italian pool of engineers, as it is much harder to convince someone to move to Italy with a "normal wage".

It's by no means the biggest problem Ferrari has, but I don't believe it should be discarded completely as something that has no effect at all. RedBull, Mercedes and McLaren have access to a much more competitive pool of engineers in the UK, because the job security and the job market for the "normal" individual interested in working in F1 is better over there.

What is stopping Ferrari from moving their f1 hq to the uk?

[Fakepivot]

What is stopping Ferrari from moving their f1 hq to the uk?

nationalism ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , they are Thee Italian team. Horner has criticized Ferrari about this. he said something like they are trying to be a national team when instead they just need to be a motorsport team something like that I don't remember the exact quote

[FW17]

I don't understand this situation. Hamilton is portraying as if everything is wrong at Ferrari, if so what has Fred Vasseur (whom he wants to stay at the team) done for the last two years?

I also don't know how an F1 driver is an expert at setting up an engineering led team of over a 1000? Too much credit is going to WDC driver who spend the least amount of time at the factory as compared to any other member of the team.

For a person with insight into how Mercedes works from leadership point of view they brought in Jérôme d'Ambrosio and Loïc Serra.

[venkyhere]

I also don't know how an F1 driver is an expert at setting up an engineering led team of over a 1000? Too much credit is going to WDC driver who spend the least amount of time at the factory as compared to any other member of the team.

Some (or many?) of us share this Q with you :

Hamilton

“Of course I’m asking for these things [upgrades]. I don’t know why we haven’t been bringing upgrades, I think we have one hopefully coming soon.”

“The mindset for me, I’m like ‘there’s a lot of changes that need to be made in the system.’ I wish I could tell you what's happening. There's a lot going on in the background.”

“Yeah, I can't say too much about it. There’s so many things I wish I could tell you that could explain the things that have happened this year, the problems we had and what’s going on within the organisation. But my goal is to try and positively influence, try and get change so we can have long term success.”

“There’s a lot of changes that we need. For me it’s that foundation building. We’re not fighting for a championship.”

https://x.com/fiagirly/status/1934360122286846040

So we have one driver on the verge of bursting to tears seeing his dream fall away, another trying to play Moses and wanting the sea to separate for him, a technical team who have no clue whats happening, a TP who thinks nothing is wrong & all these panicking guys need to have a beer, and a management leadership who are probably leaking stories of 'restructuring' the team that they have been restructuring for the past 18-20 yrs and still haven't finished.

Nice.

[FW17]

I also don't know how an F1 driver is an expert at setting up an engineering led team of over a 1000? Too much credit is going to WDC driver who spend the least amount of time at the factory as compared to any other member of the team.

Some (or many?) of us share this Q with you :

Hamilton


https://x.com/fiagirly/status/1934360122286846040

So we have one driver on the verge of bursting to tears seeing his dream fall away, another trying to play Moses and wanting the sea to separate for him, a technical team who have no clue whats happening, a TP who thinks nothing is wrong & all these panicking guys need to have a beer, and a management leadership who are probably leaking stories of 'restructuring' the team that they have been restructuring for the past 18-20 yrs and still haven't finished.

Nice.

I hope I am wrong, but i have sinking feeling that Hamilton came in to be an ally of Fred Vasseur to bring about changes which Fred could not achieve.

[MattLightBlue]

I also don't know how an F1 driver is an expert at setting up an engineering led team of over a 1000? Too much credit is going to WDC driver who spend the least amount of time at the factory as compared to any other member of the team.

Some (or many?) of us share this Q with you :

So we have one driver on the verge of bursting to tears seeing his dream fall away, another trying to play Moses and wanting the sea to separate for him, a technical team who have no clue whats happening, a TP who thinks nothing is wrong & all these panicking guys need to have a beer, and a management leadership who are probably leaking stories of 'restructuring' the team that they have been restructuring for the past 18-20 yrs and still haven't finished.

Nice.

I hope I am wrong, but i have sinking feeling that Hamilton came in to be an ally of Fred Vasseur to bring about changes which Fred could not achieve.

This is the best scenario. The worse version is, Hamilton saw how Fred operates and wants him out too.

[Luscion]

Some (or many?) of us share this Q with you :

I hope I am wrong, but i have sinking feeling that Hamilton came in to be an ally of Fred Vasseur to bring about changes which Fred could not achieve.

This is the best scenario. The worse version is, Hamilton saw how Fred operates and wants him out too.

why do people keep saying Hamilton wants Fred out when theres a whole podcast by Autoracer saying the complete opposite, also i dont see the harm in taking the advice of a guy who was imbedded in a team that dominated for almost a decade

[MattLightBlue]

I am positive he can bring some advice on methods and team structure too. I am just on the fence about Lewis position, because of the disillusional mood of his recent interviews.