2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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dia6olo wrote:
20 Jun 2025, 00:14
Personally I feel this talk of Ferrari needing to move to Britain or in someway have some sort of base there to attract personnel is nonsense!

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For me Ferrari's problem is their inability as an organisation/team to get the best out of what they have...
Yet when Ferrari had a British design office under John Barnard, they decided to design another car in Italy "because reasons".

Isn't that exactly an organisational issue of not making optimal use of a British engineering office?

Then Ferrari allowed Barnard to be poached by Benetton and the Ferrari car's performance went downhill rapidly from the 1990 championship contender. Until such point Ferrari had to hire Barnard back. :(

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Chuckjr wrote:
20 Jun 2025, 07:08
The denial of the need for Newey from Fred and some fans is absolutely beyond comprehension.
McLaren have the best car and they don't have Newey. :wink:

dia6olo wrote:
20 Jun 2025, 14:47
It'll be interesting to see how he does at Austin Martin, I suspect he won't have the success many are anticipating...
Obviously at Aston Martin, Newey has the authority to reshape the Aston Martin technical structure as he sees fit. Such as recruiting the ex-Red Bull chief simulator engineer back from Apple.

This is of course simply not possible at Ferrari, where the team structure is fixed (seemingly) yet team principals and technical directors are fired for under performance anyway!

deadhead wrote:
20 Jun 2025, 15:47
I think if they manage to transform the SF25 into a race winning car they will probably renew his contract
That would be a waste of time and money, apart from parts like suspension and brake drums which can be reused in 2026!

Even the 2026 season should set reasonable targets. Ferrari's external and internal pressure to win ASAP all the time is not helpful in the slightest IMO.

djones wrote:
21 Jun 2025, 08:39
But they should have dug deep and prioritised getting Adrian. Or even trying to get whoever is leading the current McLaren cars development.
Andrea Stella had the authority to overhaul the entire team's way of designing and engineering a car. A Team Principal being able to do that at Ferrari, i.e. a Team Principal more powerful than the company board, is surely completely unacceptable to Ferrari, no?

The board learnt their lesson about Todt and Brawn becoming too powerful and having too much influence. Such situation was completely unacceptable to the board, and cannot be repeated. On track success is unimportant if the board is being undermined by lesser employees like team principals and technical directors!

catent wrote:
19 Jun 2025, 19:58
I will say, despite the operational strides, there still seems to be a bit of an issue on the factory/technical side of things, and I don't get the impression Vassuer has done much from a structural/personnel standpoint to address those things.
Why would Vassuer be allowed to do anything about that?! That's not the Ferrari way.

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Chuckjr wrote:
20 Jun 2025, 07:08
deadhead wrote:
19 Jun 2025, 21:28
catent wrote:
19 Jun 2025, 19:58
It is hard to know if Vasseur's sacking is justified without knowing the internal dynamics.

If Newey was legitimately on the table, it would be catastrophic to, a year later, fire the TP who chose to forgo hiring Newey. Yikes.
My opinion is that Vassuer convinced them that they don’t need Newey and he probably had a nice list of A list engineers he wanted to hire from the UK but it slowly became clear than they very much needed Newey and very few on that A list actually want to work for Vassuer and move Italy.

The 2026 project is likely to be another failure due to so many people leaving because of Vassuer without anyone replacing them and having to fix the SF25 mess, which was created under Vassuer’s watch, instead of working on the 2026 car.

Having Adrian Newey on your side is a big deal in Formual 1, especially right before a whole new regulation cycle. Huge miss, and I think Vassuer is the main reason it didn’t happen, so now he will be shown the door.

I don’t really like him for this job so anyone else would be better than him as far as I’m concerned.
Exactly. Exactly. The denial of the need for Newey from Fred and some fans is absolutely beyond comprehension. The best car can make even the worst of drivers look talented, and aero engineers are the key. I mean, look at Bottas. My god. Merc and their dominant car made even that pork chop look talented. Lol. Ferrari is so far over Fred's head and beyond his ability to lead it boggles the mind. Been saying this for forever. Smh.
Wow what a slimy remark. Reported for abusive language towards a driver