2025 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 04 - 06

[DiogoBrand]

Not landos fault oscar did what he did and that max gave it too much right foot

You mean: Not Lando's fault the stewards did what they did and that Max gave it too much right foot.
Anywhere else in the world he would get booed on the podium.

A little lucky in that sense sure.


But the penalty was there for Oscar too. May not have been deliberate might trying to warm tyres/brakes but it the kinda thing that will very quickly end in years with them being rear ended. Lando drove pretty well too -food pace in the end there wasn't any need for him to attack Oscar like he might have if he was fighting for the position genuinely only gave the chance of doing something silly making a mistake and costing himself. Wasn't his fault Oscar braked hard there.

Perhaps the only argument I would have would be Russell on Max a few weeks ago though there were some different circumstances there

Also, if they're so concerned with safety, maybe turn off the SC lights somewhere more predictable than the last corner. You can clearly see he stepped on the brakes as soon as the lights went out on the SC.

[erudite450]

These race threads have become poisonous. JfC! These things happen in sports for goodness sake. Oscar was given an arguably harsh penalty and Norris benefitted, these things happen.

[Seanspeed]

The driver is only good as his car, hope this settles it.

The Red Bull is not as good as the Mclaren man and Max absolutely achieves more with his machinery than Lando and Piastri achieve with what's so clearly and comprehensively the best car on the grid. You're never going to be able to argue this convincingly because the rest of us can see the obvious reality.

Also anyways, I really think the sport needs to retire full wet tires. At this point, it's simply strategy bait. Any driver who would make the sensible choice to put on full wets when conditions call for it would be punished since the race director is just going to call a safety car out, and then wont let them race again until it's ideal for inters again.

They literally will not let them race in full wet conditions anymore, and when they call out a full safety car and bunch up everybody again, they're just making it MORE dangerous for everybody.

So immensely frustrating.

[DDopey]

When McLarens win in wet race it's their car, but when Max wins with dominating wet race it's just him.
The driver is only good as his car, hope this settles it.

No arguments there. When Max wins he's the greatest in history, when he doesn't it's the car that's terrible.

Most people here have seen a couple of F1 races, have watched for a few years, seen multiple races in the wet, and then you can distinguish between when a car has grip and when it doesn't. In this case I think its quite clear which car had grip and which didn't.

[Seanspeed]

These race threads have become poisonous. JfC! These things happen in sports for goodness sake. Oscar was given an arguably harsh penalty and Norris benefitted, these things happen.

I think people are rightly quite incensed to see somebody gifted a win undeserved, which also comes with big championship implications. And it feels especially bad that the guy gifted the win just 'happened' to be British...

[purestpurist]

These race threads have become poisonous. JfC! These things happen in sports for goodness sake. Oscar was given an arguably harsh penalty and Norris benefitted, these things happen.

These things happen when it benefits english drivers

[ismail1991]

Why do you guys say Hulk p3 is good if it sticks? Is he under investigation?

[Lazy]

The driver is only good as his car, hope this settles it.

The Red Bull is not as good as the Mclaren man and Max absolutely achieves more with his machinery than Lando and Piastri achieve with what's so clearly and comprehensively the best car on the grid. You're never going to be able to argue this convincingly because the rest of us can see the obvious reality.

Also anyways, I really think the sport needs to retire full wet tires. At this point, it's simply strategy bait. Any driver who would make the sensible choice to put on full wets when conditions call for it would be punished since the race director is just going to call a safety car out, and then wont let them race again until it's ideal for inters again.

They literally will not let them race in full wet conditions anymore, and when they call out a full safety car and bunch up everybody again, they're just making it MORE dangerous for everybody.

So immensely frustrating.

This is getting obsessive mate. If it's so obvious, why do you have to keep saying it?

[purestpurist]

Why do you guys say Hulk p3 is good if it sticks? Is he under investigation?

He will be. They already rat####ed the australian need to get the german off the podium as well since lewis is right behind him.

[erudite450]

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Also anyways, I really think the sport needs to retire full wet tires. At this point, it's simply strategy bait. Any driver who would make the sensible choice to put on full wets when conditions call for it would be punished since the race director is just going to call a safety car out, and then wont let them race again until it's ideal for inters again.

They literally will not let them race in full wet conditions anymore, and when they call out a full safety car and bunch up everybody again, they're just making it MORE dangerous for everybody.

So immensely frustrating.
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It's really frustrating how overtly cautious the race director is.

[cliffgamerz]

The driver is only good as his car, hope this settles it.

The Red Bull is not as good as the Mclaren man and Max absolutely achieves more with his machinery than Lando and Piastri achieve with what's so clearly and comprehensively the best car on the grid. You're never going to be able to argue this convincingly because the rest of us can see the obvious reality.

Also anyways, I really think the sport needs to retire full wet tires. At this point, it's simply strategy bait. Any driver who would make the sensible choice to put on full wets when conditions call for it would be punished since the race director is just going to call a safety car out, and then wont let them race again until it's ideal for inters again.

They literally will not let them race in full wet conditions anymore, and when they call out a full safety car and bunch up everybody again, they're just making it MORE dangerous for everybody.

So immensely frustrating.

Was it worse than Sauber today?

As i said the driver is only good as his car, no one is god tier in wet races, Max is a good driver and above many current F1 drivers on the grid, he ain't anything special as people make it look like in wet. If this race was dry he would have won it easily maybe, we will not know, McLaren clearly set up their car for the race and not qualy as they were around 2 secs faster than anyone on the grid today during the middle stint after safety car.

[DiogoBrand]

These race threads have become poisonous. JfC! These things happen in sports for goodness sake. Oscar was given an arguably harsh penalty and Norris benefitted, these things happen.

I think people are rightly quite incensed to see somebody gifted a win undeserved, which also comes with big championship implications. And it feels especially bad that the guy gifted the win just 'happened' to be British...

Not to mention the fact that he's celebrated and got emotional as if he was Senna in 91. Just read the situation, man.

[ismail1991]

Why do you guys say Hulk p3 is good if it sticks? Is he under investigation?

He will be. They already rat####ed the australian need to get the german off the podium as well since lewis is right behind him.

I dont think he will be. Oscars sudden stop was not clever, it is similar to what Bottas did. The penalty is reasonable.

[Sergej]

why 2 trophies for Lando ?

[Seanspeed]

The driver is only good as his car, hope this settles it.

The Red Bull is not as good as the Mclaren man and Max absolutely achieves more with his machinery than Lando and Piastri achieve with what's so clearly and comprehensively the best car on the grid. You're never going to be able to argue this convincingly because the rest of us can see the obvious reality.

Also anyways, I really think the sport needs to retire full wet tires. At this point, it's simply strategy bait. Any driver who would make the sensible choice to put on full wets when conditions call for it would be punished since the race director is just going to call a safety car out, and then wont let them race again until it's ideal for inters again.

They literally will not let them race in full wet conditions anymore, and when they call out a full safety car and bunch up everybody again, they're just making it MORE dangerous for everybody.

So immensely frustrating.

Was it worse than Sauber today?

As i said the driver is only good as his car, no one is god tier in wet races, Max is a good driver and above many current F1 drivers on the grid, he ain't anything special as people make it look like in wet. If this race was dry he would have won it easily maybe, we will not know, McLaren clearly set up their car for the race and not qualy as they were around 2 secs faster than anyone on the grid today during the middle stint after safety car.

Again, some drivers quite clearly get more out of their cars than others. Max absolutely is a special driver and it's bonkers to suggest otherwise.