2025 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 04 - 06

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DiogoBrand wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:00
Seanspeed wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:56
erudite450 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:53
These race threads have become poisonous. JfC! These things happen in sports for goodness sake. Oscar was given an arguably harsh penalty and Norris benefitted, these things happen.
I think people are rightly quite incensed to see somebody gifted a win undeserved, which also comes with big championship implications. And it feels especially bad that the guy gifted the win just 'happened' to be British...
Not to mention the fact that he's celebrated and got emotional as if he was Senna in 91. Just read the situation, man.
Yea that did make it extra obnoxious. But that's Norris for ya.

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Seanspeed wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:53
cliffgamerz wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:47
The driver is only good as his car, hope this settles it.
The Red Bull is not as good as the Mclaren man and Max absolutely achieves more with his machinery than Lando and Piastri achieve with what's so clearly and comprehensively the best car on the grid. You're never going to be able to argue this convincingly because the rest of us can see the obvious reality.

Also anyways, I really think the sport needs to retire full wet tires. At this point, it's simply strategy bait. Any driver who would make the sensible choice to put on full wets when conditions call for it would be punished since the race director is just going to call a safety car out, and then wont let them race again until it's ideal for inters again.

They literally will not let them race in full wet conditions anymore, and when they call out a full safety car and bunch up everybody again, they're just making it MORE dangerous for everybody.

So immensely frustrating.
The problem has always been pirelli, in 2016 it was revealed by pirelli themselves that the 2010 Bridgestone inters displaced more water than the 2016 pirelli FULL WETS. Pirelli full.wets are just complete garbage and are unraceable. They aquaplane far too much.

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Sergej wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:03
why 2 trophies for Lando ?
One for the win. The other was the ‘most gifted win 2025” award.

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Seanspeed wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:04
DiogoBrand wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:00
Seanspeed wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:56

I think people are rightly quite incensed to see somebody gifted a win undeserved, which also comes with big championship implications. And it feels especially bad that the guy gifted the win just 'happened' to be British...
Not to mention the fact that he's celebrated and got emotional as if he was Senna in 91. Just read the situation, man.
Yea that did make it extra obnoxious. But that's Norris for ya.
Then on next race he's like "Why does everyone hate me?"

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djones wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:06
Sergej wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:03
why 2 trophies for Lando ?
One for the win. The other was the ‘most gifted win 2025” award.
in all seriousness the gold one is the royal automobile club trophy that is given annually to the winner.

Lego provided the sponsor trophies for this years podium which is WONDERFUL :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Several of you are getting closer to the edge in these posts about nationality.

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Not a Norris fan here but at least Norris didn’t bottle it at the restart! Just sayin… :shock:

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Anyone who does not appreciate how stunningly good Max and Lewis are in wet conditions misses a lot in formula one. But yes, any driver is only as good as his car, which was shown today. Max did well to hold out in front as long as he did. Lewis mixed great pace with being taken by surprise by a car he really does not get along with. But all they are the greatest drivers in the grid today, and the other drivers still have a lot to show before they will be considered to be in the same league.

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purestpurist wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:38
No penalty for russell in canada for the same infraction...disappointed, but far from surprised
Nothing to do, not comparable… Please read the official FIA documents it explains it pretty well
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McLarenHonda wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:09
Not a Norris fan here but at least Norris didn’t bottle it at the restart! Just sayin… :shock:
Cheeky, all in all Piastri's penalty was sus and needs some explaination, maybe need to check the official penalty document.

Congrats to Hulkenberg for his first ever podium and what a brilliant P3 was that coming from back.

Also to those complaining about gifted win, nobody wants to see that as an F1 fan and McLaren is clearly looking at and wants to discuss about it with FIA.

Piastri this year has been remarkable so far and today he was the fastest driver on the grid too and he deserved the win too to be fair, but it ain't Norris's fault Piastri got the penalty so people who are feeling the opposite are either disappointed that their team/driver did bad or are not neutral F1 fans. Congrats to McLaren today for getting the proper race car today =D>

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AngusF1 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:14
Stolen race. Absolute disgrace, blatant manipulation by the stewards. No driver was affected by the supposed offense so no grounds existed for the (false) penalty. Stewards in cahoots with the team? Hard to rule it out. Not to mention the FIA and sponsors will prefer an English champion.

Great drive by Hulk.
Tell Max that no driver was affected. :wink:

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AngusF1 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:14
Stolen race. Absolute disgrace, blatant manipulation by the stewards. No driver was affected by the supposed offense so no grounds existed for the (false) penalty. Stewards in cahoots with the team? Hard to rule it out. Not to mention the FIA and sponsors will prefer an English champion.

Great drive by Hulk.
They didnt in 2021, how about that? Agree or not that there could have been a big crash at that hard stop. Piastri shouldnt have done it. I want Piastri to win the championship, that hard stop was very unnecessary. Bottas did it before a big crash happened. Piastri will learn from it

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ismail1991 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:18
AngusF1 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:14
Stolen race. Absolute disgrace, blatant manipulation by the stewards. No driver was affected by the supposed offense so no grounds existed for the (false) penalty. Stewards in cahoots with the team? Hard to rule it out. Not to mention the FIA and sponsors will prefer an English champion.

Great drive by Hulk.
They didnt in 2021, how about that? Agree or not that there could have been a big crash at that hard stop. Piastri shouldnt have done it. I want Piastri to win the championship, that hard stop was very unnecessary. Bottas did it before a big crash happened. Piastri will learn from it
Piastri so far has been consistent, so it's very likely if he keeps that throughout the year he has a higher chance to be the champion this year, unless something changes in second half, Piastri is not only fast with this years car but has improved a lot in just 3 years in F1 that's just very impressive and he is taking the fight to someone who is very fast. Max doesn't have a fastest car this year which is evident and it looks like everyone else will be switching the focus on 2026 car now and it will be between Piatri and Norris now till Abu Dhabi, let the best driver win [-o<

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DiogoBrand wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:52
Watto wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:50
DiogoBrand wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 17:41


You mean: Not Lando's fault the stewards did what they did and that Max gave it too much right foot.
Anywhere else in the world he would get booed on the podium.
A little lucky in that sense sure.


But the penalty was there for Oscar too. May not have been deliberate might trying to warm tyres/brakes but it the kinda thing that will very quickly end in years with them being rear ended. Lando drove pretty well too -food pace in the end there wasn't any need for him to attack Oscar like he might have if he was fighting for the position genuinely only gave the chance of doing something silly making a mistake and costing himself. Wasn't his fault Oscar braked hard there.

Perhaps the only argument I would have would be Russell on Max a few weeks ago though there were some different circumstances there
Also, if they're so concerned with safety, maybe turn off the SC lights somewhere more predictable than the last corner. You can clearly see he stepped on the brakes as soon as the lights went out on the SC.

I don't think for a second it was intentional by Oscar but I do think the penalty was fair. He risked taking himself out of the race if Max rear ended him. And Lando the lead in the WDC.

Like I said the only argument I probably have it is was a bit similar to the Russell/Max incident a few weeks ago that they cleared. Max over his time has played some games there that got the FIA rightly to change some rules.

I'm a fan of Oscar but think he threw away the win on his own today.

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CMSMJ1 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 18:08
Several of you are getting closer to the edge in these posts about nationality.

Wind it in
Wouldn't expect anything else from someone with your profile signature. Sorry, but there's f1 fans outside england who get upset when results are repeatedly tinkered with to favor your drivers.