2025 McLaren F1 Team

[Darth-Piekus]

Haha don’t waste your time mate, he doesn’t look at facts and just thinks everything and everyone is anti McLaren

I just happen not to follow the pack and do some actual research beyond of what is served to me. Considering the past of the FIA stewards those who have no clear knowledge of the safety car rules (AD 2021) it's hypocritical to take their knowledge for granted. Apparently a Safety Car situation has the same penalty as someone who deliberately uses his car as a weapon. How about the clear rule of not passing another during a Safety Car? I suppose it's double standards depending on name. But yes feel free to personally attack me.

You know what is a pity? Instead of celebrating an easy victory which we saw our two drivers demolishing the 4 times champion in full rain where cars become equal we are here sulking because of a controversial decision who changed a result.

[PikeStance]

You know what is a pity? Instead of celebrating an easy victory which we saw our two drivers demolishing the 4 times champion in full rain where cars become equal we are here sulking because of a controversial decision who changed a result.

I don't think it is saltiness. It is a McLaren 1-2. That's all that matters. Did what Piastri do warrant a penalty? Was it too harsh? Is the penalty a consistent application of the rules? All of these are fair questions to ask, and you don't need to be "salty" about it.

Norris executed his race and took the victory, Piastri did not execute his race good enough to win, but he came second. Obviously, a well-executed race for both drivers is ideal, but a 1-2 when one driver did not execute is still a great result.

[Darth-Piekus]

I don't think it is saltiness. It is a McLaren 1-2. That's all that matters. Did what Piastri do warrant a penalty? Was it too harsh? Is the penalty a consistent application of the rules? All of these are fair questions to ask, and you don't need to be "salty" about it.

Norris executed his race and took the victory, Piastri did not execute his race good enough to win, but he came second. Obviously, a well-executed race for both drivers is ideal, but a 1-2 when one driver did not execute is still a great result.

What I meant to say is that a controversial decision from stewards who still trying to find out the safety car rules (AD2021), never letting fully wet races and still penalize with double standards made us fight each other yet again instead of celebrating a year of dominance and a fantastic battle between our two drivers. The whole drama made us choose drivers instead of being Mclaren clearly. Both drivers executed the race and gave a fantastic battle and here we are talking about something beside the drivers.

[FittingMechanics]

We are not talking about it, you are. Many here are super happy for another 1-2.

Third one in 4 races since the flexi wing clamp down. We should talk about that. It almost looks like it hurt other teams more than McLaren.

[Watto]

Haha don’t waste your time mate, he doesn’t look at facts and just thinks everything and everyone is anti McLaren

I just happen not to follow the pack and do some actual research beyond of what is served to me. Considering the past of the FIA stewards those who have no clear knowledge of the safety car rules (AD 2021) it's hypocritical to take their knowledge for granted. Apparently a Safety Car situation has the same penalty as someone who deliberately uses his car as a weapon. How about the clear rule of not passing another during a Safety Car? I suppose it's double standards depending on name. But yes feel free to personally attack me.

You know what is a pity? Instead of celebrating an easy victory which we saw our two drivers demolishing the 4 times champion in full rain where cars become equal we are here sulking because of a controversial decision who changed a result.

The rules are clear though. The lead car controls the pace but is not allowed rapid acceleration or braking that may endanger other cars. There isn't anything controversial at all about it IMO and I perhaps hope the stewards act in it more in the future. I think they should have acted on it before today. Watching the Races review that he did it twice probably played into it . The first restart Max had to turn to avoid a collision the 2nd he had to do the same they acted.

Do I think the stewards have bene inconstant yes. Bias, non fans every team thing that are bias agains them and another player/team always gets the rub of the green. It goes for any sport to me. Blame the refs/stewards rather than your own mistakes.

The rules also clearly allow a driver to overtake if an opponent is driving eraticly rapid acceleration/braking - when Charles overtook Max before the S/F line a few weeks ago when Max made the mistake coming out of the final corner on hards again is pretty clearly allowed .


Anyway, McLaren as I said earlier clearly nailed the setup for a wet race and both Lando and Oscar drove exceptional well the team had a great weekend

[TeamKoolGreen]

Piastri says that the only good thing about today was the Hulks podium. That's rich considering McLaren got a 1,2.

Piastri got a little too pumped up at the restart and he blew it. That was a penalty.

(I was fist pumping in the air when Nico crossed the line)

[venkyhere]

So let's recap.
1)Good job from Lando Norris. He did a silent race and in my personal opinion even though he did not deserve the win it was still a win.
2)Piastri on full rain where cars become equal showed why he's already passed Max Verstappen in skill or at least equal. Are people still want to ignore the Australian's skill? 15 seconds gap to the Dutch rainmaster and another 5 after the first Safety Car. This is a master class race from Oscar but I don't see the media giving him credit. I feel personally considering the past that the stewards have double standards regarding penalties.

1)
Norris fully deserved this victory. Piastri was not able to 'pull away' because Norris kept his inters in a better state than Piastri did, and once he was the leader, was 'managing risk'. Piastri did close the gap towards the end, but it was mainly because Norris was 'managing' - he was doing exactly what was required, and nothing more. He wasn't trying to prove anything and rightly so.
Piastri was just being a typical racing driver, crying foul over his penalty, He did drive a brilliant race, did something notty, was penalized for it, then complained about it and wanted the team to compensate for the stewards treating him 'unfairly' and 'demanding his place back' - atleast it will correct the narrative that he is some sort of Buddhist monk who finds himself in a racing car. Piastri is a typical opportunist racing driver who happens to be a silent/reserved personality - may long he continue to be like that.

I don't understand why so many Mclaren fans in this thread are pissed off that Piastri didn't win it & are annoyed by Norris celebrating his win - I am not sure if it was a Verstappen/Russel being the 'safety car' (once the actual safety car has switched off it's lights and pulled away into the pits) and did that 'gimmick' , this thread would have stayed in support of the act - there would have been 'baying for blood'. Deserved penalty.

2)
Let me not say anything more than - "no racing driver in the world can drive fast if there is no grip from lack of downforce, when already the coefficient of friction between tarmac and rubber is very low". In fact I am surprised that Max made only one mistake in such low grip conditions, with 'so much lack of downforce' - he is not god, he is human, who happens to be a good racing driver.
About Piastri not being appreciated enough : what media are you reading/watching ? Piastri is the toast of the 2025 season - praise pouring in from all directions about how a guy in just his 3rd season, is giving sleepless nights to a phenomenal talent who is in his 7th season and finally has a winnable car. The talent of Piastri is not lost on anyone, FFS. But I think you are making a grave mistake by claiming he has surpassed Max etc - every man has his opinions and all that.....

[Mostlyeels]

Oh, and Peter Prodromou was on the podium, nice to see!

Yeah, I don't often watch the podium, but was glad I did this time. Great to see long-suffering employees get their day in the sun.

[SilviuAgo]

Very happy for Lando, happy for McLaren 1-2, felt bad for Oscar (for us as McLaren fans was a harsh penalty but according to the rules and telemetry data was a fair one, and as someone very good mentioned, we had the same feeling last year in Qatar with that drive through for Lando for not lifting couple of kph in straight line). And I have to admit the way McLaren is dealing with the situation.

Andrea said this after the race.

Now, what was Lando fault to serve the penalty together with Oscar?
So for me, the race outcome was a fair one although second SC was a total disaster for Oscar: reducing his lead from +15 sec to Max to nothing and brought also the penalty. But from this to accuse the stewards that they penalized Oscar on purpose to win Max, or Lando, or Hamilton...is a long way to go.

[SilviuAgo]

That is nice. In all this hatred, it's good to keep some emotion.

[bauc]

Oh, and Peter Prodromou was on the podium, nice to see!

Yes that was super nice, we often forgot we was one of the first people to join Mclaren HONDA project and stayed along for the ride.

[Slahinki]

Excellent race all around. A shame for Piastri, but that's just how it goes sometimes. The penalty was fairly clear, even before replays were shown, IMO. Superb drive by Norris to not put a foot wrong the entire race. Good to see Prodromou on the podium after the Key years.

And what a drive by Nico!

[Seerix]

hah, all three also did a shooey in the fanzone, it's posted on McLarenF1 twitter as well

[avantman]

First time in his career Norris won two consecutive races of the same season. That's definitely a feat.

[PikeStance]

Very happy for Lando, happy for McLaren 1-2, felt bad for Oscar (for us as McLaren fans was a harsh penalty but according to the rules and telemetry data was a fair one, and as someone very good mentioned, we had the same feeling last year in Qatar with that drive through for Lando for not lifting couple of kph in straight line). And I have to admit the way McLaren is dealing with the situation.

Andrea said this after the race.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvNJ7boXMAA ... ame=medium
Now, what was Lando fault to serve the penalty together with Oscar?
So for me, the race outcome was a fair one although second SC was a total disaster for Oscar: reducing his lead from +15 sec to Max to nothing and brought also the penalty. But from this to accuse the stewards that they penalized Oscar on purpose to win Max, or Lando, or Hamilton...is a long way to go.

I don't think says much really,... with a safety car you would double stack the cars anyway. Norris cut a 4 sec lead to about 2 seconds when they did pit. When I was looking at the timing, Norris was faster than Piastri. If the race track had remained wet, I believe we would have seen a battle. I think Norris would prefer to pass on merit anyway. So, the SC scenario mentioned would have been preferable to Norris.