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The real problem simply is that Mateschitz sr was shareholder and CEO of the company, who could decide all things on his own (like agreeing for the new wind tunnel before he passed away). With his death this voting power was not transfered to his son, who decided then just to act as a shareholder and not being involved in the daily Business. Things would be very different if Mateschitz jr would have the same voting power.
I do not think voting power is an issue. It is the reporting.
I am struggling in a similar thing...usually a discission is made in a phone call, but as soon as things go to corporate level you start drafting powerpoint slides for days. Same here...in the past they just had a quick call with Mateschitz. Now they present the strategy to the swiss capital firm in most probably many powerpoint slides.
And the reporting is done the way it is, because they had to install directors for the daily business, who are just employees. Before it was owner-managed, who had all the voting power to make quick decisions. If Mateschitz could have transferred his voting power to his son, the company would still be owner-managed by the jr.
The real problem simply is that Mateschitz sr was shareholder and CEO of the company, who could decide all things on his own (like agreeing for the new wind tunnel before he passed away). With his death this voting power was not transfered to his son, who decided then just to act as a shareholder and not being involved in the daily Business. Things would be very different if Mateschitz jr would have the same voting power.
I do not think voting power is an issue. It is the reporting.
I am struggling in a similar thing...usually a discission is made in a phone call, but as soon as things go to corporate level you start drafting powerpoint slides for days. Same here...in the past they just had a quick call with Mateschitz. Now they present the strategy to the swiss capital firm in most probably many powerpoint slides.
And the reporting is done the way it is, because they had to install directors for the daily business, who are just employees. Before it was owner-managed, who had all the voting power to make quick decisions. If Mateschitz could have transferred his voting power to his son, the company would still be owner-managed by the jr.
I think it depends a lot if his Mateschitz Jr wanted the role though. It doesn't really seem like he does has just been happy to be a shareholder. Isn't even (that I can see) an employee of RBGmbh anymore, he was but stepped down. I think the role probable requires it to be a bit of a passion project to be such a hands on decision maker. Seems more happy with you all make the day to day running of the company, come to me if something is really needed.
On Fords and Red Bulls: Some corporations are more of a personal project reflecting the character of a CEO or a single owner. These can be unique enterprises, as RB was, and yes, Dieter was one of two founders, but he is the one known for RB's international reputation; regardless, such enterprises don't always outlive the existence of their founder/director/curator/leader/monarch. Without Michaelangelo present, a crew of sculptors cannot produce Michaelangelos. They can emulate his previous works or make their own. How long is a rock band supposed to last? If a member leaves, the band's output changes. If all the members leave, what is left? The original band? Or can their aesthetic be carried on regardless? At what point to you choose a new band name? At a certain point you risk getting into LARPing and coattail-riding. This gets into a discussion of the replicability of any enterprise's definitive features contraposed to the innate proclivities of its members. In fact, such experiments are now being conducted globally at the scale of nation states.
Red Bull consumer products can probably go on for a while, just as Coca-Cola has gone on for a while regardless of trademark ownership. Red Bull Racing on the other hand... They've been around twenty years--a long time in F1 terms, and have won championships across eight of them. Also a very good rate in F1 terms, but without the triumvirate of Mateschitz, Horner, and Newey, I'm not sure it can be distinct from other motorsport chassis & engine manufacturers.
With Ives and Jobs gone, Apple changed. If Musk leaves Tesla or Spacex, those projects would definitely change, perhaps even fall apart. If Trump left Trump Entertainment Resorts or whatever it's called, obviously that enterprise would change drastically or disappear. The post-Henry-Ford Ford Motor Co. experienced power struggles. List any number of the stories found in the history of Europe's monarchies. When communism's vanguards either died or defected, each franchise of communism changed in character. An enterprise as a machine can be maintained by its former subordinates, but not without consequences.
What are the chances that Horner left RB and not the other way around.
This is pure speculation based on nothing but ny intuition.
Maybe Horner is eying a change in his life.
Why might that be? Newey left, the owner died. He's attacked right and left with smear campaigns, it's said that Austrian side wants him replaced. Jos the crazy is like a nightmare to deal with.
He was almost fired a year back and must have felt he lived on borrowed time in the organisation.
After all this it's easy to see him look for alternatives, be open to other options, taking charge of his own situation instead of hoping for a miracle in RB.
He's secured 4 straight WDC and 8 in total. His bargain power is at top right now.
What do you all think?
Either I'm a genius or crazy suggesting this haha.
Again, it's based on nothing, no rumours no indications etc. Please keep it as an outlandish idea and nothing real.
