2025 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 25 - 27

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Re: 2025 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 25 - 27

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Such a tricky conditions that only all 20 drivers finished the race.

SB15
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The only way to get good wheel-to-wheel racing in the ground effect era is wet weather racing, where it's about the driver. But jeez... this maybe even worse than the previous regulations, closer racing is basically non-existent anymore.

erudite450
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Madness! Absolute madness! We already have one team dominating, the one opportunity to have a bit of variation is lost in fear and caution.

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CHT
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Brilliant first lap for Oscar..control the race from start to finish..well done

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erudite450 wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:08
Madness! Absolute madness! We already have one team dominating, the one opportunity to have a bit variability is lost in fear and caution.
It's never been so over :-({|= ](*,)

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Well the whole weekend was a shambles really racing-wise, don’t blame the FIA for being cautious, it is by far the most dangerous track on the calendar in the wet. The only reason we race here is because it’s the best track for drivers, not spectators. Hope they had some fun. Softer tires might have spiced up the race a bit but artificial all the same, it’s the nature of the track.

ismail1991
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Re: 2025 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 25 - 27

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Lewis and Max wanted to start the race sooner and some other driver who i will not name was asking for more laps. You know it gives you great understanding of the skill levels

Rinde
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The C1 did the same number of laps as the C3 with no major losses in laptime for the Mclaren drivers. The gap on reduced from 8 to 3.5, ignoring Lando's two mistakes. I feel like tyre strategy is dying for races with no safety car. It also feels like teams and the FIA are more risk averse leaving no room for excitement. It's become engineering with zero emphasis on racing.

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ismail1991 wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:46
Lewis and Max wanted to start the race sooner and some other driver who i will not name was asking for more laps. You know it gives you great understanding of the skill levels
Don't hold back, please name everyone who wanted more laps on a dry track.

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Rinde wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:49
The C1 did the same number of laps as the C3 with no major losses in laptime for the Mclaren drivers. The gap on reduced from 8 to 3.5, ignoring Lando's two mistakes. I feel like tyre strategy is dying for races with no safety car. It also feels like teams and the FIA are more risk averse leaving no room for excitement. It's become engineering with zero emphasis on racing.
when corporations[money] and technology take over, the fun is over.
we see this everywhere in the world now, not just in f1.

F1Sara
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avantman wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:51
Rinde wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:49
The C1 did the same number of laps as the C3 with no major losses in laptime for the Mclaren drivers. The gap on reduced from 8 to 3.5, ignoring Lando's two mistakes. I feel like tyre strategy is dying for races with no safety car. It also feels like teams and the FIA are more risk averse leaving no room for excitement. It's become engineering with zero emphasis on racing.
when corporations[money] and technology take over, the fun is over.
we see this everywhere in the world now, not just in f1.
Monaco 2.0 today.

mzso
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SB15 wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:05
The only way to get good wheel-to-wheel racing in the ground effect era is wet weather racing, where it's about the driver. But jeez... this maybe even worse than the previous regulations, closer racing is basically non-existent anymore.
Well, it was better in 2022. But then everyone learnt to outwash the front tire wake like Red Bull. The FIA didn't act so now it's as bad as in 2021.

erudite450
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ismail1991 wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:46
Lewis and Max wanted to start the race sooner and some other driver who i will not name was asking for more laps. You know it gives you great understanding of the skill levels
It was crazy hearing Lando complain about visibility behind the safety car. It used to be the driver in front calling for the race to start. The sport is the safest it has ever been and drivers are earning more money than ever before but we have to listen to them moan in the least drop of rain.

mzso
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TwanV wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:36
Well the whole weekend was a shambles really racing-wise, don’t blame the FIA for being cautious, it is by far the most dangerous track on the calendar in the wet. The only reason we race here is because it’s the best track for drivers, not spectators. Hope they had some fun. Softer tires might have spiced up the race a bit but artificial all the same, it’s the nature of the track.
Actually it was one of the best for viewers, especially in the rain. But F1 became so crap now it's as bad as any Tilke track.

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avantman wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:49
ismail1991 wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:46
Lewis and Max wanted to start the race sooner and some other driver who i will not name was asking for more laps. You know it gives you great understanding of the skill levels
Don't hold back, please name everyone who wanted more laps on a dry track.
The younger drivers do seem to expect a red flag rather than getting on and making the best of it. I suppose it’s becoming the new normal. Asking the drivers about visibility is new and could kill racing in the rain almost entirely, if the drivers say they can’t see then the RD will have to red flag. I can imagine drivers gaming this for advantage also.

It reminds me of the WRC and night stages. 20-30 years ago they were just normal as you couldn’t fit the number of stage miles into daylight hours on several events. Now with shorter events there’s gradually been less night stages. The younger drivers increasingly want no night stages at all seeing them as dangerous and unnecessary.