2025 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, Aug 01 - 03

[Sergej]

no contact between Max and Lewis

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As expected, Alonso a cork and forming two races. Front four are away and gone. Trains everywhere else. Dull

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[AR3-GP]

Why is Charles under investigation?

T1 moving under braking, the road rage contact incident with Russell.

It's not the first time that we've seen this from Leclerc. He drove into the side of Norris in Spain during free practice because he was upset that Norris impeded him.

I'm wondering how Leclerc only got 5 seconds today? Not that it makes a difference to the running order, but what could possibly have mitigated the standard 10 second penalty? The first time was a bit naughty but the 2nd time was slam dunk and also deliberate.

If a different driver had done this, this thread would have tripled in page count.

[Sphere3758]

Why is Charles under investigation?

T1 moving under braking, the road rage contact incident with Russell.

It's not the first time that we've seen this from Leclerc. He drove into the side of Norris in Spain during free practice because he was upset that Norris impeded him.

I'm wondering how Leclerc only got 5 seconds today? Not that it makes a difference to the running order, but what could possibly have mitigated the standard 10 second penalty? The first time was a bit naughty but the 2nd time was slam dunk and also deliberate.

If a different driver had done this, this thread would have tripled in page count.

Yes, because of all the bad luck he had today, some leniency of penalty is not something most people care to argue about (unlike you)

[basti313]

T1 moving under braking, the road rage contact incident with Russell.

It's not the first time that we've seen this from Leclerc. He drove into the side of Norris in Spain during free practice because he was upset that Norris impeded him.

I'm wondering how Leclerc only got 5 seconds today? Not that it makes a difference to the running order, but what could possibly have mitigated the standard 10 second penalty? The first time was a bit naughty but the 2nd time was slam dunk and also deliberate.

If a different driver had done this, this thread would have tripled in page count.

Yes, because of all the bad luck he had today, some leniency of penalty is not something most people care to argue about (unlike you)

Which bad luck?

[AnotherAlex]

Why is Charles under investigation?

T1 moving under braking, the road rage contact incident with Russell.

Road rage… lmao. Troll.

Indeed!
Yes, it was a late move whilst on the brakes, so fair enough for the stewards to look at it but, as mentioned in their ruling, they didn't touch, and to suggest that it was anything like Max's conact with Russell in Spain is ludicrous.

[renault rs26]

Not sure I find Norris' drive that impressive. Just like Russel in Spa 2024, he took a gamble because he was effectively out of the race. And just like Russel, he didn't have to do much because the tyres were just too robust.

Pirelli needs to do better with their tyre choices. They are being too conservative. It was pretty much impossible to overtake today no matter the tyre delta.

EDIT: Typo

I think it would be better if we went back to 2 tire types per weekend, with 3 tires teams have zeroed in on ignoring the softest and we have one stoppers everywhere except the absolute hardest tracks for tires.

I don't think it would work as Pirelli probably would just removed softest tire from selection amd we'd still have the same strategies or even less.

[Seanspeed]

Why is Charles under investigation?

T1 moving under braking, the road rage contact incident with Russell.

It's not the first time that we've seen this from Leclerc. He drove into the side of Norris in Spain during free practice because he was upset that Norris impeded him.

I'm wondering how Leclerc only got 5 seconds today? Not that it makes a difference to the running order, but what could possibly have mitigated the standard 10 second penalty? The first time was a bit naughty but the 2nd time was slam dunk and also deliberate.

If a different driver had done this, this thread would have tripled in page count.

Because while he moved under braking, he didn't actually impede anybody. Basically a desperate scare tactic.

And other drivers DO do this sort of thing all the time and never get punished for it. Verstappen himself literally did it against Leclerc at this very track in the past and nothing was even 'noted', let alone punished.

[CjC]

And there was no contact between Leclerc and Russell which is now a 10 second penalty.
Leclerc was penalised for ‘driving erratically’ not ‘causing a collision’

[AR3-GP]

T1 moving under braking, the road rage contact incident with Russell.

It's not the first time that we've seen this from Leclerc. He drove into the side of Norris in Spain during free practice because he was upset that Norris impeded him.

I'm wondering how Leclerc only got 5 seconds today? Not that it makes a difference to the running order, but what could possibly have mitigated the standard 10 second penalty? The first time was a bit naughty but the 2nd time was slam dunk and also deliberate.

If a different driver had done this, this thread would have tripled in page count.

Because while he moved under braking, he didn't actually impede anybody. Basically a desperate scare tactic.

And other drivers DO do this sort of thing all the time and never get punished for it. Verstappen himself literally did it against Leclerc at this very track in the past and nothing was even 'noted', let alone punished.

I'm a strong believer in an eye for an eye, everyone racing one another how they want to be raced in return. Therefore, I don't have a criticism of Leclerc. Russell sounded like a schoolboy tattling on a classmate to the headmaster...embarrassing stuff. I know they all do it but his voice is just so pre-pubescent at times... Just go out and return the favor next time George.

However, considering how discussions on this forum tend to go when one driver is involved, the lack of interest in this incident was odd..

[Seanspeed]

It's not the first time that we've seen this from Leclerc. He drove into the side of Norris in Spain during free practice because he was upset that Norris impeded him.

I'm wondering how Leclerc only got 5 seconds today? Not that it makes a difference to the running order, but what could possibly have mitigated the standard 10 second penalty? The first time was a bit naughty but the 2nd time was slam dunk and also deliberate.

If a different driver had done this, this thread would have tripled in page count.

Because while he moved under braking, he didn't actually impede anybody. Basically a desperate scare tactic.

And other drivers DO do this sort of thing all the time and never get punished for it. Verstappen himself literally did it against Leclerc at this very track in the past and nothing was even 'noted', let alone punished.

I'm a strong believer in an eye for an eye, everyone racing one another how they want to be raced in return. Therefore, I don't have a criticism of Leclerc. Russell sounded like a schoolboy tattling on a classmate to the headmaster...embarrassing stuff. I know they all do it but his voice in particular is almost pre-pubescent at times... Just go out and return the favor next time George.

However given how discussions on this forum tend to go when one driver is involved, I thought the lack of interest in this one was odd...

Well you're unwilling to say who you're talking about, so it's hard to say much else, I guess. I see this sort of behavior go unpunished loads, much like running others off-track.

[AR3-GP]

Well you're unwilling to say who you're talking about, so it's hard to say much else, I guess. I see this sort of behavior go unpunished loads, much like running others off-track.

oh you know . There's only 1 driver that can fill out 10 pages on this forum with the most banal of incidents...

[Seanspeed]

Well you're unwilling to say who you're talking about, so it's hard to say much else, I guess. I see this sort of behavior go unpunished loads, much like running others off-track.

oh you know . There's only 1 driver that can fill out 10 pages on this forum with the most banal of incidents...

Verstappen is criticized regularly, but usually when people are talking about him, it's cuz he's done something far more than just 'banal'. He's a genuinely constant offender in the 'pushing things too far' category.

So yea, people will probably pay more attention to that than somebody who only does it fairly rarely, like most drivers.

[ismail1991]

Piastri’s best chance was lap 67 into 68, but lost rear coming out of final corner. He was close and still had a run. If we were to point to a crucial moment (or mistake like we do for many other drivers) that was it.

At the lap he got very close and locked up his brakes, he should have tried to go to outside brake late, and get under Norris. Then with drs he could have passed him. I think Lewis has done it before in his Mercedes days

[Watto]

no contact between Max and Lewis

I tended to thing this all showed the 'British Bias' of the sky team. From the first replay they tried to hang Max out to dry with no evidence - perhaps some history between the two. Even later bringing up the overtaking guidelines. No evidence of them touching just .....Lewis went wide. Lewis post race said he just saw Max's nose up the inside and moved off track to let him through . Yes it was aggressive from Max as everyone has gotten to know. But I though it was poor by the Sky team to blame Max for that even when there wasn't any evidence of it.