2025 McLaren F1 Team

[genarro]

Great race for the team. Fantastic result. 200th win and a 1-2 is almost a dream come true. Who would have thought that this was possible from the dark days just a couple of years ago...

Onto the next one

[Tvetovnato]

A bit like the Russell win in Spa last year. Stay out with nothing to lose, and it turned out to be a lucky stroke. Very well executed of course, but this one surely must sting for Piastri which was obvious it did. Lesson to McLaren is to offer each driver the option to cover whatever the other does right from the get go, and not when you are already locked into a losing strategy as Piastri was today. Had Piastri been offered that today, he would have finished ahead of Norris today as track position is absolute key here.

[Macklaren]

A bit like the Russell win in Spa last year. Stay out with nothing to lose, and it turned out to be a lucky stroke. Very well executed of course, but this one surely must sting for Piastri which was obvious it did. Lesson to McLaren is to offer each driver the option to cover whatever the other does right from the get go, and not when you are already locked into a losing strategy as Piastri was today. Had Piastri been offered that today, he would have finished ahead of Norris today as track position is absolute key here.

well, let's hope Lando is not DSQ Will was telling Lando repeatedly to do extra pickup in the parade lap

[Xero]

A bit like the Russell win in Spa last year. Stay out with nothing to lose, and it turned out to be a lucky stroke. Very well executed of course, but this one surely must sting for Piastri which was obvious it did.

Not sure luck had any part to play in it. No safety cars, a straight lights to flag race, and Lando did it quickest. His pace was pretty mighty on that stint, he more than earned it for me. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but at no point did the 1 stop look like the fastest strategy. Others who tried it are a prime example.

Lesson to McLaren is to offer each driver the option to cover whatever the other does right from the get go, and not when you are already locked into a losing strategy as Piastri was today. Had Piastri been offered that today, he would have finished ahead of Norris today as track position is absolute key here.

Not sure I follow this one, both drivers were offered options, and Oscar had first dibs. Are you implying the driver behind must follow the same strategy decisions as the first to make it fair? That seems more unfair in the opposite direction. Let them race openly, and make decisions with their own race engineer, as you would against any other team. That's exactly what McLaren has allowed.

200 race wins, and another 1-2. Absolutely incredible, what a car!

[Tvetovnato]

A bit like the Russell win in Spa last year. Stay out with nothing to lose, and it turned out to be a lucky stroke. Very well executed of course, but this one surely must sting for Piastri which was obvious it did.

Not sure luck had any part to play in it. No safety cars, a straight lights to flag race, and Lando did it quickest. His pace was pretty mighty on that stint, he more than earned it for me. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but at no point did the 1 stop look like the fastest strategy. Others who tried it are a prime example.

Lesson to McLaren is to offer each driver the option to cover whatever the other does right from the get go, and not when you are already locked into a losing strategy as Piastri was today. Had Piastri been offered that today, he would have finished ahead of Norris today as track position is absolute key here.

Not sure I follow this one, both drivers were offered options, and Oscar had first dibs. Are you implying the driver behind must follow the same strategy decisions as the first to make it fair? That seems more unfair in the opposite direction. Let them race openly, and make decisions with their own race engineer, as you would against any other team. That's exactly what McLaren has allowed.

200 race wins, and another 1-2. Absolutely incredible, what a car!

I agree that Lando did a great job, but it was clear it was a gamble that worked out in his favour. My point is not that Lando should need to follow what Oscar does, I mean that Oscar should have been asked in the first stint what he wanted to do. Box to overtake Leclerc, or monitor what Lando does to cover his strategy first and then try to get Charles later in the race? It was clear what his choice was when he was finally asked, so there is no doubt he would have gone for the same strategy as Lando if it was offered. But the team decided Leclerc was the priority at that point for Oscar, and then Lando could do what he wanted as he had nothing to lose. I think they should review that for the future, that’s all. Anyway, it was of course more entertaining for us viewers as it panned out. And what a fantastic run the team is on!

[Ben1980]

A bit like the Russell win in Spa last year. Stay out with nothing to lose, and it turned out to be a lucky stroke. Very well executed of course, but this one surely must sting for Piastri which was obvious it did. Lesson to McLaren is to offer each driver the option to cover whatever the other does right from the get go, and not when you are already locked into a losing strategy as Piastri was today. Had Piastri been offered that today, he would have finished ahead of Norris today as track position is absolute key here.

Lando hadn't chosen to one stop till way after Oscar first stopped.

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[bauc]

What a great tactical race, superb job, another 1-2.... and Mclaren's 200th win, WOW, the only team besides Ferrari with 200+ wins in F1, what a time to be alive. I've been a Mclaren fan since 1997 and there were a lot of good times and a lot of bad times, but I guess coming back on top after 11-12 super difficult years, this time it feels different, like a vendetta :")

Rest now boys, see you in 4 weeks time

Mclaren!

[Farnborough]

A bit like the Russell win in Spa last year. Stay out with nothing to lose, and it turned out to be a lucky stroke. Very well executed of course, but this one surely must sting for Piastri which was obvious it did.

Not sure luck had any part to play in it. No safety cars, a straight lights to flag race, and Lando did it quickest. His pace was pretty mighty on that stint, he more than earned it for me. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but at no point did the 1 stop look like the fastest strategy. Others who tried it are a prime example.

Lesson to McLaren is to offer each driver the option to cover whatever the other does right from the get go, and not when you are already locked into a losing strategy as Piastri was today. Had Piastri been offered that today, he would have finished ahead of Norris today as track position is absolute key here.

Not sure I follow this one, both drivers were offered options, and Oscar had first dibs. Are you implying the driver behind must follow the same strategy decisions as the first to make it fair? That seems more unfair in the opposite direction. Let them race openly, and make decisions with their own race engineer, as you would against any other team. That's exactly what McLaren has allowed.

200 race wins, and another 1-2. Absolutely incredible, what a car!

I agree that Lando did a great job, but it was clear it was a gamble that worked out in his favour. My point is not that Lando should need to follow what Oscar does, I mean that Oscar should have been asked in the first stint what he wanted to do. Box to overtake Leclerc, or monitor what Lando does to cover his strategy first and then try to get Charles later in the race? It was clear what his choice was when he was finally asked, so there is no doubt he would have gone for the same strategy as Lando if it was offered. But the team decided Leclerc was the priority at that point for Oscar, and then Lando could do what he wanted as he had nothing to lose. I think they should review that for the future, that’s all. Anyway, it was of course more entertaining for us viewers as it panned out. And what a fantastic run the team is on!

Oscar was asked/offered a one stop over comms, by his engineer on lap 9, about one stopping.

Conversation stated that other competitors were considering that option.

It was fair choice in reality. There's no conspiracy.

[Tvetovnato]

A bit like the Russell win in Spa last year. Stay out with nothing to lose, and it turned out to be a lucky stroke. Very well executed of course, but this one surely must sting for Piastri which was obvious it did. Lesson to McLaren is to offer each driver the option to cover whatever the other does right from the get go, and not when you are already locked into a losing strategy as Piastri was today. Had Piastri been offered that today, he would have finished ahead of Norris today as track position is absolute key here.

Lando hadn't chosen to one stop till way after Oscar first stopped.

Exactly. So if Oscar is given the option to monitor what Lando does and respond to that instead of going for Leclerc in the first stint, Oscar would have been good. At the end of stint 1 he was several seconds ahead of Lando and could have stayed out, and would have had pit stop priority in any of the two cases when they finally decided to box the drivers.

[Tvetovnato]

Not sure luck had any part to play in it. No safety cars, a straight lights to flag race, and Lando did it quickest. His pace was pretty mighty on that stint, he more than earned it for me. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but at no point did the 1 stop look like the fastest strategy. Others who tried it are a prime example.




Not sure I follow this one, both drivers were offered options, and Oscar had first dibs. Are you implying the driver behind must follow the same strategy decisions as the first to make it fair? That seems more unfair in the opposite direction. Let them race openly, and make decisions with their own race engineer, as you would against any other team. That's exactly what McLaren has allowed.

200 race wins, and another 1-2. Absolutely incredible, what a car!

I agree that Lando did a great job, but it was clear it was a gamble that worked out in his favour. My point is not that Lando should need to follow what Oscar does, I mean that Oscar should have been asked in the first stint what he wanted to do. Box to overtake Leclerc, or monitor what Lando does to cover his strategy first and then try to get Charles later in the race? It was clear what his choice was when he was finally asked, so there is no doubt he would have gone for the same strategy as Lando if it was offered. But the team decided Leclerc was the priority at that point for Oscar, and then Lando could do what he wanted as he had nothing to lose. I think they should review that for the future, that’s all. Anyway, it was of course more entertaining for us viewers as it panned out. And what a fantastic run the team is on!

Oscar was asked/offered a one stop over comms, by his engineer on lap 9, about one stopping.

Conversation stated that other competitors were considering that option.

It was fair choice in reality. There's no conspiracy.

No, he was asked if he thought it was possible, and he said it was too early to tell but that the tyres felt fine. But the call or question to Oscar should not have been to do a one or two stop, it should have been to either go for Leclerc or monitor Lando and respond. I'm not saying there is any conspiracy, I am just saying that they could and should have handled it differently for Oscar given the championship situation, but they were blinded by Leclerc and then it panned out well for Lando as a consequence of that.

[Ben1980]

A bit like the Russell win in Spa last year. Stay out with nothing to lose, and it turned out to be a lucky stroke. Very well executed of course, but this one surely must sting for Piastri which was obvious it did. Lesson to McLaren is to offer each driver the option to cover whatever the other does right from the get go, and not when you are already locked into a losing strategy as Piastri was today. Had Piastri been offered that today, he would have finished ahead of Norris today as track position is absolute key here.

Lando hadn't chosen to one stop till way after Oscar first stopped.

Exactly. So if Oscar is given the option to monitor what Lando does and respond to that instead of going for Leclerc in the first stint, Oscar would have been good. At the end of stint 1 he was several seconds ahead of Lando and could have stayed out, and would have had pit stop priority in any of the two cases when they finally decided to box the drivers.

But if all the data suggested a 2 stop is quickest, and Oscar is just trundling behind Leclerc, why shouldn't the team try and do what's best to win?

Especially if they had concerns on his tyres, as stated.

[Seerix]

You are somehow trying to get Oscar ahead of Lando via strategy, while he already received what the team perceived as optimal strategy to win (and winning automatically means finishing ahead of Lando). Oscar said the same post race.
Lando's strategy just randomly worked out, not much anyone can do about that.
LEC being so slow in 3rd stint also played a part and noone could predict he will fall of that hard.

Same thing happened last week. Lando chose hards because why not, Oscar got preferred strategy with mediums and it was very close race in the end but it does not mean you give your lead car suboptimal strategy.

[Ben1980]

The teams race was to try and win the race. It should not have been about one driver covering another. If Oscar wanted to long it out to cover Lando, and ignore Leclerc or even Russell, then he needs a rethink.

Team comes first, trying to win comes first.

[Tvetovnato]

The teams race was to try and win the race. It should not have been about one driver covering another. If Oscar wanted to long it out to cover Lando, and ignore Leclerc or even Russell, then he needs a rethink.

Team comes first, trying to win comes first.

Was that really the priority here though? Had the priority been for the team to win at all costs, Oscar would never have received the question to fight Leclerc or Norris. McLaren didn't know at that point if Lando's onestopper would work or not as it was a risk, so to safeguard, Oscar should have been put on the optimal Leclerc beating strategy. So now they were happy to rather put Oscar behind Leclerc who in turn could potentially overtake Lando if his tyres fell of the cliff. Seems awfully risky to allow that kind of choice if it's a McLaren win at all costs.

In Spa as mentioned above, the situation was not the same as Oscar had all the other with the same strategy covered and Lando could go ahead with his strategy without risk from a team perspective.