It's pretty common this season for their pace to fall off in the last stint.
It's just today's loss was very extreme (2 seconds) usually it's only a few tenths.
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It's pretty common this season for their pace to fall off in the last stint.
Damn, I'm so curious.LM10 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 20:17Leclerc:
In the car, I didn’t have all the information; now I have them. We had a chassis problem from lap 40 onwards. From that moment on, I was just a passenger; there was nothing to do. There was a lot of frustration in the car—I thought it was coming from another decision that had been made.
The disappointment and frustration remain because we have a real chance to win this year, and today was very probably that chance. Even though we had a bit more degradation than the McLaren cars, the pace was there in the first stint, in the second stint, and up until around lap 40. I’m really disappointed, but these are racing days. Now that I understand a bit more about what happened behind the scenes, these are things you simply cannot predict.
ScuderiaLeo wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 20:19It's pretty common this season for their pace to fall off in the last stint.
It's just today's loss was very extreme (2 seconds) usually it's only a few tenths.
That's why Leclerc was absolutely lambasting the team via radio messages that he knows will be publicly aired, right, because he would never throw the team under the bus, and will lie to protect them? And therefore the chassis issue - which Leclerc has confirmed - must be a lie to cover for a plank issue?GrizzleBoy wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 20:37Charles will never sell Ferrari out. He has Ferrari in his veins and in his heart. If there is a narrative, he will spin it for the team. Especially if someone whispers in his ear that its the plank.
Why did the suspension work in the Spa then?
In my opinion…
You mean like Mercedes who went back to their previous suspension and found pace again?
I think that all of the drivers are emotional. This is not the problem at Ferrari. The problem is the SF25 and Fred has been selling fairy tales about it's potential since day 1. This season would have been like 2020 or 2021 if they ran at an appropriate ride height to stop the plank wear. Fred would not have been renewed. Now you understand why he spent all year blaming the drivers and pointing to this fictitious "potential" which only appears when the car is running too low. He would certainly have been fired if the real potential of the SF25 was exposed..Fakepivot wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 22:02well happy summer break, I really hope Lewis comes back stronger, is supposed to be a leader. imagine how hard Fred job is managing two overly emotional driver. weather it works or not idk but, in the end, they need to relax a little, look at George, Oscar, I know Lando can be bit self-beating, but he is not this emotional during race etc. so is max even on worst result he is lot colder. so are any other driver honestly. I don't know if this is even a problem like how Charles is confrontational about almost every radio message etc. it's been like this for some time, I don't hear this much confrontation from other team.
So the car's main problem is because of the limitations going double Pull-rod, since the pull-rod on the front allows for better airflow while also bringing the car closer to the ground at high speed, if you have too much downforce then you run into an issue with plank wear because the car would look it's on rails but is actually scraping the plank because there's not enough "stalling" with the Pull-rod in the rear. The reason why many teams switched to the Push-rod for the rear. (Mercedes did a hybrid for the rear suspension, where their push-rod lowers the car like a Pull-rod while stalling at a certain height, Merc could've been really quick if they switched to pull-rod on the front but they may carry over the current concept for next year)AR3-GP wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 22:13I think that all of the drivers are emotional. This is not the problem at Ferrari. The problem is the SF25 and Fred has been selling fairy tales about it's potential since day 1. This season would have been like 2020 or 2021 if they ran at an appropriate ride height to stop the plank wear. Fred would not have been renewed. Now you understand why he spent all year blaming the drivers and pointing to this fictitious "potential" which only appears when the car is running too low.Fakepivot wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025, 22:02well happy summer break, I really hope Lewis comes back stronger, is supposed to be a leader. imagine how hard Fred job is managing two overly emotional driver. weather it works or not idk but, in the end, they need to relax a little, look at George, Oscar, I know Lando can be bit self-beating, but he is not this emotional during race etc. so is max even on worst result he is lot colder. so are any other driver honestly. I don't know if this is even a problem like how Charles is confrontational about almost every radio message etc. it's been like this for some time, I don't hear this much confrontation from other team.