2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Since chassis damage is ruled out, I also agree with the theory. High tire pressure created a negative feedback loop with the loss of aero in the slow corners due to increased ground clearance, and the sliding would have raised the tire temperature and accelerated the tire wear. That can explain all of it. As TimW said, the first part of the stint was not that slow but the Pirelli tires are fickle. Upset them for too long and they turn to stone.
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f1316 wrote:No chassis issue apparently: https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10748911/

I really think that the tyre pressures are the culprit, as making the car slide and the compounding issues that has on deg, totally lines up with a car’s performance “falling off a cliff” imho.
This article is quoting corriere, not sure how reliable it has been lately, of course not saying it’s not true.

If they raised tire pressure, and they knew this was plank wear related, what’s the point of checking the chassis and saying that they didn’t find any issue?

None of this makes any sense to me. The article then proceeds to make the same claim of lower engine mode to avoid plank wear despite that mode having been in use since lap 8 and having gone back to full steam on lap 57, which I think is just then speculating.

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I went to find the original source article that Nunez doesn’t link (of course…)

https://www.corriere.it/sport/formula-1 ... _amp.shtml

The subtitle is “wing changes and tire pressure don’t justify 2s per lap” at the end the article says the result of the analysis so far doesn’t exclude plank wear.

The article says the team is looking into potential other external causes like how MCL lost competitiveness in q3 the day before.

Overall this article doesn’t do much for me, if it’s not chassis, and I don’t see how it can be plank wear, then they don’t know how they lost, which is worse.

And as I wrote earlier, how is the team puzzled by this if they presumably inflated those tires at 40psi like my car? Plenty of GPs min tire pressure went up 2-3psi between FP and Race and the cars don’t lose 2s per lap.

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dialtone wrote:
08 Aug 2025, 04:21
This article is quoting corriere, not sure how reliable it has been lately, of course not saying it’s not true.
It's better than twitter.

dialtone wrote:
08 Aug 2025, 04:21
If they raised tire pressure, and they knew this was plank wear related, what’s the point of checking the chassis and saying that they didn’t find any issue?
It was beyond their understanding. That's why they checked the chassis.

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08 Aug 2025, 04:21
None of this makes any sense to me. The article then proceeds to make the same claim of lower engine mode to avoid plank wear despite that mode having been in use since lap 8 and having gone back to full steam on lap 57, which I think is just then speculating.
They didn't have the same engine mode "since lap 8 and having gone back to full steam on lap 57". I pointed this out along with the full radio transmission on the previous page.

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The mode increased after the pitstop on lap 20 which you can see by comparing lap 15 to lap 22:

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The mode was reduced again on lap 28 when they perhaps realized the tire pressure adjustment at the first stop wasn't enough to reduce the vertical accelerations they were measuring from the bottoming. You can see that by comparing lap 22 to lap 29:

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Why they went back to full power again by lap 57 can be explained by futile attempt to keep Russell behind. Russell passed on lap 61/62. They also could have detected that the car was no longer too low (hence the loss of the slow speed performance). Therefore, they were happy to use normal power again.
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