2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Macklaren wrote:
14 Aug 2025, 19:18
lio007 wrote:
14 Aug 2025, 18:49
And the full story will highly likely never become public.
There are definitely going to be a few tell-all books at some point in the next 10 years. Too much money left on the table not to...Horner will easily pull 7-figures for a book advance
Don't you think NDAs play a role in those scenarios nowadays?

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lio007 wrote:
14 Aug 2025, 22:16
Macklaren wrote:
14 Aug 2025, 19:18
lio007 wrote:
14 Aug 2025, 18:49
And the full story will highly likely never become public.
There are definitely going to be a few tell-all books at some point in the next 10 years. Too much money left on the table not to...Horner will easily pull 7-figures for a book advance
Don't you think NDAs play a role in those scenarios nowadays?
Yep, agree. Horner probably could forgo any RBR payout and go that route but think his payout likely goes beyond what a book would make.He was earning $5m + pa and had 5 years left depending on base salary etc.hes probably going to be paid at least 8 figures to be quiet.


I am sure a few little details will come out but doubt the full story ever does.

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Watto wrote:
14 Aug 2025, 23:57

Yep, agree. Horner probably could forgo any RBR payout and go that route but think his payout likely goes beyond what a book would make.

He was earning $5m + pa and had 5 years left depending on base salary etc.hes probably going to be paid at least 8 figures to be quiet.
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He was the director from 4 Red Bull companies and got >16 million a year x 5 ½ year!
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Wouter wrote:
15 Aug 2025, 09:45
Watto wrote:
14 Aug 2025, 23:57

Yep, agree. Horner probably could forgo any RBR payout and go that route but think his payout likely goes beyond what a book would make.

He was earning $5m + pa and had 5 years left depending on base salary etc.hes probably going to be paid at least 8 figures to be quiet.
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He was the director from 4 Red Bull companies and got >16 million a year x 5 ½ year!
He could have been Director in 23 RB companies, but is only employed at one. He earned nearly 9 million pounds in 2023. Very likely a big bonus for 2 Championships included...

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-wkst- wrote:
15 Aug 2025, 14:56
Wouter wrote:
15 Aug 2025, 09:45
Watto wrote:
14 Aug 2025, 23:57

Yep, agree. Horner probably could forgo any RBR payout and go that route but think his payout likely goes beyond what a book would make.

He was earning $5m + pa and had 5 years left depending on base salary etc.hes probably going to be paid at least 8 figures to be quiet.
.
He was the director from 4 Red Bull companies and got >16 million a year x 5 ½ year!
.
He could have been Director in 23 RB companies, but is only employed at one. He earned nearly 9 million pounds in 2023. Very likely a big bonus for 2 Championships included...
.
Christian Horner sacked by Red Bull

Wednesday July 09 2025, 3.45pm BST, The Times

Christian Horner has been released from his operational duties as Red Bull team principal after the constructor’s poor form this season proved the final straw in an increasingly strained workplace.
Horner, 51, who has been with the team since their creation in 2005, was informed on Tuesday of the decision by the Austrian
and Thai shareholders to end his time at Red Bull.
He had been contracted with the team until 2030, and earned a salary of £12million [=14 million €] a year.
https://archive.is/vqCzI
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Audi and RBPT/Ford are new with their PU's next year. Tombazis gave a long interview in AMuS.
I translated this:

How likely is it that a team will be as dominant as it was in 2014?

Tombazis: I don't think we'll see another engine manufacturer dominate the way it did in 2014. Back then, the drive system was much more complicated than its predecessor. This time, we're doing the opposite. We are simplifying the technology. Originally, we wanted to go even further, but we didn't get it through. The new powertrains are simpler. They no longer have MGU-H, and there are stricter limits in some areas. On the other hand, we have newcomers among the manufacturers, and there is always the risk that one of them will miss the mark with their first attempt. Despite budget limits and limited test bench time.

Can the engine manufacturers make improvements if they are too far behind?

Tombazis: Yes. We have introduced a program for this, which we call “additional development opportunities for performance deficits.” It was in the rules from the beginning. In recent months, we have specified how we want to handle it. Essentially, we will measure the average performance for each manufacturer every six races. For those who are below a certain level, there will be an opportunity for retrofitting, depending on how big the gap is. This can be represented in three different levels. More money for development.
More test bench hours. More time for homologation of the specification. So those who are behind have a chance to catch up.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... rview-fia/
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A much more sensible approach this time around.