2025 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Aug 29 - 31

[CjC]

Rear wings:

[venkyhere]

Out of curiosity, I was comparing the Q laptimes at Zandvoort :
2023 RB19 : 24.324 , 24.504 , 21.739
2024 RB20 : 24.073 , 24.731 , 21.225
2024 MCL38 : 23.824 , 24.819 , 21.030

The most interesting takeway is the amount of swing in the sector times. It's known that the RB is generally faster than the McL in the high speed corners (most of S2) , but didn't expect so much swing - perhaps its the different downforce level choices as S1 is dominated by medium speed corners and S3 has one mega slow section (T11-T12). Which in turn means we will witness a myriad spectrum of wing levels as 'the setup' across teams, come qualifying on saturday.

Another interesting takaway is how the RB20 is a massive improvement (-0.5s+) over the 'world beater' RB19 (shows how bad the rest of the grid was, in 2019). Indication of what a mega monster the McL38 itself was. No words for the McL39, it's going to wipe the floor with the rest of the grid.

[PlatinumZealot]

By your numbers the RB19 is faster than the RB20 in sector 2.

[venkyhere]

By your numbers the RB19 is faster than the RB20 in sector 2.

yes, that's why I referred to setup choice difference (DF, stiffness, etc) - the RB20 was much faster in S1 and S3 (whilst sacrificing S2) as another/additional reason, apart from generic improved performance. Both were dry Qs, but not sure about things like temp and wind.

[deadhead]

Out of curiosity, I was comparing the Q laptimes at Zandvoort :
2023 RB19 : 24.324 , 24.504 , 21.739
2024 RB20 : 24.073 , 24.731 , 21.225
2024 MCL38 : 23.824 , 24.819 , 21.030

Can you share source for the data please?

[venkyhere]

Out of curiosity, I was comparing the Q laptimes at Zandvoort :
2023 RB19 : 24.324 , 24.504 , 21.739
2024 RB20 : 24.073 , 24.731 , 21.225
2024 MCL38 : 23.824 , 24.819 , 21.030

Can you share source for the data please?

https://f1insightshub.com/ (owned by our member Emag)

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Looks like FP1 should be dry as well now, with more risk of rain for the 2nd practice. Will be a busy first session then.

[Sergej]

think McLaren pushed a bit more than others ?

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Verstappen beaches the car while practicing the start. Don't think I've seen that before.

[Mogster]

No FIA F2, F3 support at Zandvoort this year?

Seems odd, Zandvoort is a really good circuit for F3 cars in particular.

[atanatizante]

Based on the tyre usage in FP2 in the picture below and a dry race on Sunday, can we figure out which teams/drivers are opting for a one and which for a 2-stop race?

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Based on the tyre usage in FP2 in the picture below and a dry race on Sunday, can we figure out which teams/drivers are opting for a one and which for a 2-stop race?

I can't see how. But Marko said it'll be a one-stopper for everyone. It's impossible to pass, even when one second faster, and M-H will do without a problem.

[dren]

Hope the AM pace transfers to the race.

[atanatizante]

Based on the tyre usage in FP2 in the picture below and a dry race on Sunday, can we figure out which teams/drivers are opting for a one and which for a 2-stop race?

I can't see how. But Marko said it'll be a one-stopper for everyone. It's impossible to pass, even when one second faster, and M-H will do without a problem.

This presumption doesn't fully explain why some teams saved the H tyres and others the M ones for this session, bearing in mind that tomorrow it`ll be a higher chance of a wet track ...

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This presumption doesn't fully explain why some teams saved the H tyres and others the M ones for this session

that's what the always do, don't they? Some prefer a hard, some a medium as their "just in case" tire for the race. Others may return it after FP3 anyway.