2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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catent wrote:Leclerc:

"Russell's words? I'm not going to comment on that, and I don't really care about what George said after the race. The situation is much more complex than what he described, but I'm not going to comment too much. And I think, as we have already said, we won't go into the details of what exactly happened. It's something we are trying to resolve and are all working on, but the only thing I can say is that it's much more complex than that."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-auto ... ll-Ferrari
shocking huh?

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catent wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 17:58
Leclerc:

"Russell's words? I'm not going to comment on that, and I don't really care about what George said after the race. The situation is much more complex than what he described, but I'm not going to comment too much. And I think, as we have already said, we won't go into the details of what exactly happened. It's something we are trying to resolve and are all working on, but the only thing I can say is that it's much more complex than that."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-auto ... ll-Ferrari
As Ferrari continue to be completely opaque about what any of their issues ever are, people are going to continue to speculate. And it's very clear that drivers are gagged about saying anything. Feels like a very insecure move from Ferrari.

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Seanspeed wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:43
catent wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 17:58
Leclerc:

"Russell's words? I'm not going to comment on that, and I don't really care about what George said after the race. The situation is much more complex than what he described, but I'm not going to comment too much. And I think, as we have already said, we won't go into the details of what exactly happened. It's something we are trying to resolve and are all working on, but the only thing I can say is that it's much more complex than that."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-auto ... ll-Ferrari
As Ferrari continue to be completely opaque about what any of their issues ever are, people are going to continue to speculate. And it's very clear that drivers are gagged about saying anything. Feels like a very insecure move from Ferrari.
Being tight-lipped about internal affairs is exactly what you’d expect from a professional organization in a highly competitive industry.

Mercedes, Red Bull, McLaren, do not openly/transparently discuss detailed technical matters with the media. If anything, Ferrari have generally been too open about internal specifics, imo, so this is a necessary course correction.

Leaking internal technical details via the media serves no benefit to the team whatsoever; it does absolutely nothing to better themselves, and it could potentially compromise them competitively, making other competing teams privy to such details.

The only people it serves are fans who wish to know what exactly is going on and I think they have no right to know such things if the team feels it’s in their best interest to not share them.

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catent wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 22:01
Seanspeed wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:43
catent wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 17:58
Leclerc:

"Russell's words? I'm not going to comment on that, and I don't really care about what George said after the race. The situation is much more complex than what he described, but I'm not going to comment too much. And I think, as we have already said, we won't go into the details of what exactly happened. It's something we are trying to resolve and are all working on, but the only thing I can say is that it's much more complex than that."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-auto ... ll-Ferrari
As Ferrari continue to be completely opaque about what any of their issues ever are, people are going to continue to speculate. And it's very clear that drivers are gagged about saying anything. Feels like a very insecure move from Ferrari.
Being tight-lipped about internal affairs is exactly what you’d expect from a professional organization in a highly competitive industry.

Mercedes, Red Bull, McLaren, do not openly/transparently discuss detailed technical matters with the media. If anything, Ferrari have generally been too open about internal specifics, imo, so this is a necessary course correction.

Leaking internal technical details via the media serves no benefit to the team whatsoever; it does absolutely nothing to better themselves, and it could potentially compromise them competitively, making other competing teams privy to such details.

The only people it serves are fans who wish to know what exactly is going on and I think they have no right to know such things if the team feels it’s in their best interest to not share them.
I actually disagree, I think Merc are far more transparent, between their race debriefs they do after every race weekend with Allison or Shovlin and having a boss like Toto who just statight up says what their issues are and the problems their still experiencing

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It looks like the car has been raised, and like at the beginning of the season - the race pace will be good and the plank is intact, but there is pain in qualifying.
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yooogurt wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 13:17
It looks like the car has been raised, and like at the beginning of the season - the race pace will be good and the plank is intact, but there is pain in qualifying.
I agree certainly raised the car and the loss of any performance. I don’t think they need to be worried it’s not a sprint weekend unless of course the car really does have major problem with ride height. Saying that likely to be raining this weekend so wil be raised anyway

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catent wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 22:01
Seanspeed wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:43
catent wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 17:58
Leclerc:

"Russell's words? I'm not going to comment on that, and I don't really care about what George said after the race. The situation is much more complex than what he described, but I'm not going to comment too much. And I think, as we have already said, we won't go into the details of what exactly happened. It's something we are trying to resolve and are all working on, but the only thing I can say is that it's much more complex than that."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-auto ... ll-Ferrari
As Ferrari continue to be completely opaque about what any of their issues ever are, people are going to continue to speculate. And it's very clear that drivers are gagged about saying anything. Feels like a very insecure move from Ferrari.
Being tight-lipped about internal affairs is exactly what you’d expect from a professional organization in a highly competitive industry.

Mercedes, Red Bull, McLaren, do not openly/transparently discuss detailed technical matters with the media. If anything, Ferrari have generally been too open about internal specifics, imo, so this is a necessary course correction.

Leaking internal technical details via the media serves no benefit to the team whatsoever; it does absolutely nothing to better themselves, and it could potentially compromise them competitively, making other competing teams privy to such details.

The only people it serves are fans who wish to know what exactly is going on and I think they have no right to know such things if the team feels it’s in their best interest to not share them.
Everybody seems to have a good idea what's going on already. Ferrari giving a very general description of the problems they're having would NOT hurt them, come on now. Nobody is asking them to come out with a drawing board and schematics and whatnot.

And the idea that teams dont ever owe fans anything is a bit short-sighted. This sport doesn't exist without fans, and keeping everybody in the dark about what's going on, especially when Ferrari fans in particular are all super curious and would like to keep up with what's going on with the team, genuinely just feels bad.

It honestly just feels insecure, like Ferrari does not want to admit to their problems in public. Let's not act like this would be unusual for this organization. And no, all other teams are not like this. Max himself has probably been more open about what his problems have been than Ferrari have been all year, for instance. It's not normal to gag your drivers completely like Leclerc and Lewis have been, where they're literally not allowed to talk about the problems they're dealing with at all.

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Technical director Luiс Serra has identified a different approach for his first real Ferrari: a kind of revolution in suspension design that dictates the settings of the entire car. For example, taking into account a different, more limited deformation of the new front tires under the steering load. This may not be a coincidence, given that the suspension itself has been a limitation for recent Ferraris. Work is underway to integrate certain shapes in search of more efficient downforce and "unprecedented" performance of the future powertrain. The year 2026 will be a serious challenge for Ferrari. (c) Duchessa
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This weekend could be another big, big disaster

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They were clearly trying a different program in FP1 so their times are not comparable. FP2 may be worrying though particularly if AMR times are real

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Would have liked to see what Lewis could have done had he not spun, best time was set on flat spotted softs, but yea Ferrari seem pretty far away still

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Under normal conditions the car has been ~0.5 slower than the MCL on average in Q3 thus far this season and I don’t see a reason why it will be all that much different for the rest of the year; including tomorrow.

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Xyz22 wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 17:50
This weekend could be another big, big disaster
9 teams are just counting down the days…no disaster at this point.

Car looked ok..except for those turns in sector two where the understeer was visible

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I think we are going in circles, discussing and speculating what the 'big problem' with the SF25 is.
My take is very simple - they have an UTTER BASIC issue when they married the aero with the suspension , and are finding it super hard to solve it with band-aid fixes. They have found clever ways to hide this simple fact from the fans, using complicated technical jargon and anecdotal interviews. If the problem isn't 'baked in utter basic' they would have already found a fix after 14 races. There is no excuse for 'revamping' the SF24, going into the last year of the regs, without really having a clear mastery over the regulations, and then landing in this quagmire. Ferrari have dug themselves into a hole. It's as simple as that.

But there is so much 'money' to be made for youtubers and bloggers and vloggers and other social media personnel, that any 'verbal diarrhoea' on this topic is becoming 'technical content'. Let us folk in this forum not degrade ourselves into the same cesspool.

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j_ste wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 18:23

9 teams are just counting down the days…no disaster at this point.

Car looked ok..except for those turns in sector two where the understeer was visible
The understeer in S2 on Leclerc's car was terrible

I wish I could find or send a clip of it. It was shockingly bad, no wonder they're so far down in that sector.