2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[proteus]

Leclerc was off track i think, but the stewards didnt have a good camera angle to get definite evidence.

Alas, another crap weekend. I mean less salt in the wounds in the points gap between Charles and Lewis... But when I see Carlos' position at Williams, I'm still grateful.

There is a difference if a driver gets taken out or if he crashes out.

He was talking about points

And i about the reasons why the gap hasnt changed.

[Hammerfist]

Slower than RB and MB on hard tyres. Another embarrassing weekend.

The pace was pretty good from both no? Also right before both drivers crashed they were saying they're tires still felt good

No the pace wasn't good on hard tyres. Slower than RB and MB.

Leclerc was all over the back of hadjar but couldn’t pass on the hard tire. After a couple of laps he backed off probably becaose he was told to lico. There is no way to know what his real pace on the hard was imo.

[f1316]

I think the race pace was probably pretty good but impossible to tell as we never had clear air with either car. No point really drawing any conclusions from this weekend as we always qualify badly here and the race pace was impossible to judge.

I thinks we may have some fun at Monza, Baku and Singapore - after that it’ll probably be back to normal - but I think at least fighting for some poles is possible and will just make the weekends a bit more fun.

[ScuderiaLeo]

No penalty for Leclerc. Both drivers and teams agreed it was a racing incident

[ScuderiaLeo]

WTF??? I was celebrating the above post and then they share that Hamilton got a five place drop in Monza!!!

Five positions???

[DJ Downforce]

What a joke, it's a pre race incident. I hope they appeal it because the decision and grid penalty is purely based off of opinion. He DID slow down, which idiot has decided that's not enough??

Yet Kimi Antonelli can absolutely destroy Leclerc's race yet loses a few points

I hope the FIA and Mercedes liquidate

[CjC]

He defied a safety request on 2 separate out laps. It’s a totally deserved penalty considering Lando got a 10 second stop and go penalty for not lift under yellows in Qatar last season

[catent]

Slower than RB and MB on hard tyres. Another embarrassing weekend.

Posts such as these are insufferable and completely useless/unhelpful. Nothing said that is accurate or interesting ... just emotionally-charged, bombastic, over-the-top wailing.

[catent]

Antonelli's inexperienced, overzealous mistake cost Ferrari at least 6 points (potentially 8-10) in the WCC fight with Mercedes, which is now a 12 point gap.

In recent seasons, Ferrari has been in a WCC battle with either Mercedes or McLaren down to quite literally the final race of the season. We saw the impact of Sainz's/Perez's crash and Piastri's (wildly illegal) rear-wing at Baku during the 2024 season, with these marginal points swings (due to bad luck / events beyond Ferrari's control) ultimately costing Ferrari WCC battles.

Given we are setting up for a similar situation during the latter part of this season (battling Mercedes in the WCC), seeing similarly unfortunate points swings feels like deja vu. An absolute shame.

[proteus]

Antonelli's inexperienced, overzealous mistake cost Ferrari at least 6 points (potentially 8-10) in the WCC fight with Mercedes, which is now a 12 point gap.

In recent seasons, Ferrari has been in a WCC battle with either Mercedes or McLaren down to quite literally the final race of the season. We saw the impact of Sainz's crash and Piastri's cheat rear-wing at Baku during the 2024 season, with these marginal points swings (due to bad luck / events beyond Ferrari's control) ultimately costing Ferrari WCC battles.

Given we are setting up for a similar situation in this season (battling Mercedes in the WCC), seeing similarly unfortunate points swings feels like deja vu. An absolute shame.

The Piastris wing was perfectly legal at that time.

[catent]

Antonelli's inexperienced, overzealous mistake cost Ferrari at least 6 points (potentially 8-10) in the WCC fight with Mercedes, which is now a 12 point gap.

In recent seasons, Ferrari has been in a WCC battle with either Mercedes or McLaren down to quite literally the final race of the season. We saw the impact of Sainz's crash and Piastri's cheat rear-wing at Baku during the 2024 season, with these marginal points swings (due to bad luck / events beyond Ferrari's control) ultimately costing Ferrari WCC battles.

Given we are setting up for a similar situation in this season (battling Mercedes in the WCC), seeing similarly unfortunate points swings feels like deja vu. An absolute shame.

The Piastris wing was perfectly legal at that time.

No, it absolutely was not. Per the rules, ANY deflection/opening of the letter-box/DRS window is strictly prohibited when DRS is not activated. Because McLaren passed pre-race load tests does not eliminate that clear, black-and-white, objective stipulation.

It was not a grey-area, not by any means, and the fact the FIA acted immediately to prohibit such rear-wing deflection and stated any cars in violation during future sessions would be disqualified - all while leaving the door open for the front-wing flex - says everything. The FIA, and pretty much the sport at large, came out stating that this was a clear and obvious rule violation.

[Xyz22]

Slower than RB and MB on hard tyres. Another embarrassing weekend.

Posts such as these are insufferable and completely useless/unhelpful. Nothing said that is accurate or interesting ... just emotionally-charged, bombastic, over-the-top wailing.

The truth hurts unfortunately.

The pace was pretty good from both no? Also right before both drivers crashed they were saying they're tires still felt good

No the pace wasn't good on hard tyres. Slower than RB and MB.

Leclerc was all over the back of hadjar but couldn’t pass on the hard tire. After a couple of laps he backed off probably becaose he was told to lico. There is no way to know what his real pace on the hard was imo.

Antonelli (who is nowhere near Russell) was catching rapidly, which allowed Mercedes to try the undercut. Leclerc couldn't attack Hadjar because he was extremely slow in the key corners before the straights.
He was slow, that's it.

[PlatinumZealot]

There is a difference if a driver gets taken out or if he crashes out.

He was talking about points

And i about the reasons why the gap hasnt changed.

The point gap didn't change because both DNF'ed.

Lapse in judgment at the banked turn 2 for both drivers.

[Sevach]

The point gap didn't change because both DNF'ed.

Lapse in judgment at the banked turn 2 for both drivers.

If you keep talking about the points gap it's gonna be harder to convince everybody that it doesn't matter when your guy loses.

[venkyhere]

He was talking about points

And i about the reasons why the gap hasnt changed.

The point gap didn't change because both DNF'ed.

Lapse in judgment at the banked turn 2 for both drivers.

Turn 3 you mean.
Lapse in judgement by one driver.
Leclerc was taken out by Antonelli, he didn't make any judgement error.
In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter - 0 points is the nett takeaway. But it was unforced error by only one driver, not both.