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Bisonas wrote:
01 Sep 2025, 12:37
I don't remember a race that Alounso used the "F" word so many times on team radio.

Maybe there is such a race and i don't remember it but we are talking about really "a lot of times" using it. Some times he was using it, 2-3 times in the same sentence or something.
It was obvious that he was driving quite frustrated. A little bit frustrated i guess, from how qualifying went yesterday and a lot more frustrated with how the first lap played out.
But the real trigger switch was Hamilton crash. I mean from then on, it was an "F" word festival.

The timing of Hamilton crash was really really unbelievably unlucky for him, and from then on, it was just everybody's fault for Alonso. He had a problem with everything.
The whole team went into "Alonso anger management" mode from then on. He was really THAT frustrated.

But despite his frustration and his (maybe a little unfair to the team) outlash after Hamilton's crash, Alonso was right.
He wanted to roll the dice again after Hamilton's crash, and do something different to try to undercut the train in front of him, while the team was telling him, their best bet was to wait for a safety car for his next tire change. They told him that in the team radio.

I get the feeling that Alonso's frustration led the team to give in to Alonso desires and make the decision to roll the dice again, and it felt to me like they where trying to shut him up (in a humorous way :) ) Something like, ok you won, we will do what you want but don't complain again l8r if it turns out badly at the end.
I was getting those kind of vibes, while listening the team radio from start to finish.
In the end, considering the circumstances, it turned out ok, but it was really a gamble after gamble trying to correct the qualifying mishaps, trying to chase your luck, and trying to chase an opportunity to show the real pace of the car.
I agree with the F bombs use being out of character for Alonso. He's has always gotten frustrated when things don't go well just never swears.

With regards to the undercut, "Safety Car probability – 67%" being greater that 50%, does suggest a probability of more than one safety car but not guaranteed. If everyone just waits for a safety car, nothing changes. Someone has to take the initiative to do something different for there to be lucky and unlucky. Generally on tracks that passing is problematic, it's the faster cars that will attempt the undercut.

The undercut did work for Stroll and the second undercut worked for Alonso. Naturally, if no safety cars were needed, the undercut would have worked better.

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i think alonso was just frustrated after friday. Lando and Leclerc were both mentioning how quick aston were in FP2. then they had to raise the floor on saturday and lost performance in qualy and the race. then seeing a racing bull, haas and williams all ahead. was just compounding it

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SSJ4 wrote:
01 Sep 2025, 16:51
i think alonso was just frustrated after friday. Lando and Leclerc were both mentioning how quick aston were in FP2. then they had to raise the floor on saturday and lost performance in qualy and the race. then seeing a racing bull, haas and williams all ahead. was just compounding it
I know that was said but they were faster on Saturday than they were on Friday. Just not by the same ratio as everyone else. Then Alonso only had 1 new set of softs in Q3 and for whatever reason he wasn't able to improve or match his Q2 time.

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Monza might not be too bad cause in SPA they had to raise the floor as well. In Monza low downforce floor might not have to be as high. The problem is Williams is going to be the team to beat and won't be surprised if one fo them is on the podium.
Halo not as bad as we thought

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Ashwinv16 wrote:
01 Sep 2025, 21:30
Monza might not be too bad cause in SPA they had to raise the floor as well. In Monza low downforce floor might not have to be as high. The problem is Williams is going to be the team to beat and won't be surprised if one fo them is on the podium.
Cowell said they had to raise the floor at SPA cause of eau rouge. The big canyon. There is a huge compression there from the speed you pickup going down the hill then the change of direction going up the other hill. Nothing like eau rouge at Monza.

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fern ... /10755540/
Krack explained that the team's lack of running on Friday had compromised its weekend, as it did not have a realistic representation of plank wear at its initial ride heights; Stroll crashed at Turn 3 in FP2, and Alonso did limited longer runs - running only four-to-five laps in a stint overall.

"You have the plank wear, and you have to be legal after the race. We didn't do a lot of laps on Friday, Lance had the accident and Fernando did not do many long-run laps, so you are a little bit in unknown territory when it comes to the wear," Krack added.

"So you have to take a bit more of a conservative approach. We had to do that and that is costing a bit of performance."

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Alonso couldn't do proper long run in FP2 i think is because of lot of interruptions, but is same for everyone and others still managed to do long run.

Both cars did few laps of long run in FP3, didn't that give any data on plank wear? I am not convinced on this reason from Mike Krack unless others can explain.