2025 McLaren F1 Team

[CjC]

Apparently "sources" say that it auto shut down. Its understandable that Lando thought it was a failure since he lost power. But it does seem it stopped due to the detection of a leak, in ttempted prevention of engine damage.

Whether it is damaged is another question, but I wouldn't assume either way.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mcla ... -mercedes/

I feel like I’ve read that article on the race but I also I think I didn’t as they report the engine switching off to protect itself but I haven’t read that anywhere before apart from in this thread.

After listening to my Instagram post again there isn’t any clunking sounds like the good ol’ days of pistons smashing into cylinder heads

[genarro]

Gutted for Lando, but maybe the burden of winning the tile if somewhat off, maybe he'll try to enjoy more. He is clearly still in the fight but now even if he losses the title it will be remebered that this DNF impacted the title fight and he won't blame himself too much...

Now..looking into the future (since this season is going soo well), do we have any information about updates for this year and if they already made a complete switch to next years car (which i hope they already made)?

[bauc]

Gutted for Lando, but maybe the burden of winning the tile if somewhat off, maybe he'll try to enjoy more. He is clearly still in the fight but now even if he losses the title it will be remebered that this DNF impacted the title fight and he won't blame himself too much...

Now..looking into the future (since this season is going soo well), do we have any information about updates for this year and if they already made a complete switch to next years car (which i hope they already made)?

No updates, just track specific stuff to be added on the car as we are 4 months away from the first (private) test in Jerez in mid January.

[basti313]

Gutted for Lando, but maybe the burden of winning the tile if somewhat off, maybe he'll try to enjoy more.

Burden? For what is he here for? Just having a good time in a 1sec faster car?
Sorry, but sounds a bit like when my 8 year old son plays Mario Kart on the lowest setting

He is clearly still in the fight but now even if he losses the title it will be remebered that this DNF impacted the title fight and he won't blame himself too much...

No, he is not. He was never.
Like last season, this season will not be remembered at all. It is again a season of missed opportunities and mediocre performances of the drivers.

[Slahinki]

Gutted for Lando, but maybe the burden of winning the tile if somewhat off, maybe he'll try to enjoy more.

Burden? For what is he here for? Just having a good time in a 1sec faster car?
Sorry, but sounds a bit like when my 8 year old son plays Mario Kart on the lowest setting

He is clearly still in the fight but now even if he losses the title it will be remebered that this DNF impacted the title fight and he won't blame himself too much...

No, he is not. He was never.
Like last season, this season will not be remembered at all. It is again a season of missed opportunities and mediocre performances of the drivers.

The year of the first McLaren WDC since 2008 won't be remembered? Sure, bud.

[CjC]

Gutted for Lando, but maybe the burden of winning the tile if somewhat off, maybe he'll try to enjoy more.

Burden? For what is he here for? Just having a good time in a 1sec faster car?
Sorry, but sounds a bit like when my 8 year old son plays Mario Kart on the lowest setting

He is clearly still in the fight but now even if he losses the title it will be remebered that this DNF impacted the title fight and he won't blame himself too much...

No, he is not. He was never.
Like last season, this season will not be remembered at all. It is again a season of missed opportunities and mediocre performances of the drivers.

The year of the first McLaren WDC since 2008 won't be remembered? Sure, bud.

The ‘missed opportunities and mediocre performances’ got me

[basti313]

Gutted for Lando, but maybe the burden of winning the tile if somewhat off, maybe he'll try to enjoy more.

Burden? For what is he here for? Just having a good time in a 1sec faster car?
Sorry, but sounds a bit like when my 8 year old son plays Mario Kart on the lowest setting

He is clearly still in the fight but now even if he losses the title it will be remebered that this DNF impacted the title fight and he won't blame himself too much...

No, he is not. He was never.
Like last season, this season will not be remembered at all. It is again a season of missed opportunities and mediocre performances of the drivers.

The year of the first McLaren WDC since 2008 won't be remembered? Sure, bud.

Actually I am speaking about Lando, not McLaren. The McLaren of 2025 will be historic as one of the best cars ever. I mean...I will forget about the RedBull, the McLaren was/is simply the pinnacle of this rule set.

But good example qith 2008...what I remember about 2008 is the Brazil race and Hamilton. I mean...I know that Heiki was in the second car. But what he did or how he did The point above was, that we will remember that Lando had an engine failure. Did Heiki suffer engine failures or anything else like good starts or bad starts? I fear the same will be true if you ask anyone about Lando in two years and this is a pity.

[BMMR61]

I'm a little confused about the original intent of your post Basti. You used the plural "drivers" so appeared to include Oscar in your summation, a mistake in my opinion. They are very different drivers and people, on different trajectories. So much has been said and written about Lando, slightly less so Oscar. That's a product of social media, which Lando has indulged greatly in, some would say too much, and possibly to his detriment. Oscar treads a safer path of letting his driving do most of the talking. I doubt he worries about popularity ratings, and as such it has no bearing on his mental status on the track. There's plenty of fan chat diminishing him as some sort of journeyman, midfield driver, a pity as we may be witnessing the unfolding of a great career.

Somehow to some people, winning in the best car disqualifies one from greatness. It's quite a few years since the championship has been won in a car which was arguably not the best or equal best car. We are fortunate fans to see a dominant car driven by two drivers of similar speed, and allowed to compete for victory.

[mwillems]

I'm not sure we are quite ready to give the season an autopsy whilst it still has just over a third yet to run and we dont know who has won

There's so much that can happen and Oscar can easily have one bad race/issue and they are within touching distance again or even Lando ahead.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Gutted for Lando, but maybe the burden of winning the tile if somewhat off, maybe he'll try to enjoy more. He is clearly still in the fight but now even if he losses the title it will be remebered that this DNF impacted the title fight and he won't blame himself too much...

Now..looking into the future (since this season is going soo well), do we have any information about updates for this year and if they already made a complete switch to next years car (which i hope they already made)?

No updates, just track specific stuff to be added on the car as we are 4 months away from the first (private) test in Jerez in mid January.

Going to be very hard for me if I'm working a shakedown test and not allowed to say anything about the new cars

[Mansell89]

Anything that can challenge McLaren at Monza? Obviously a much different circuit to the norm and often we see a Ferrari turned up to the maximum here especially when not in the title fight.


Macca were quickest here last year but lost it by giving track position for the two stop so they had no issue with the track last year.

[aMessageToCharlie]

Somehow to some people, winning in the best car disqualifies one from greatness. It's quite a few years since the championship has been won in a car which was arguably not the best or equal best car. We are fortunate fans to see a dominant car driven by two drivers of similar speed, and allowed to compete for victory.

2024 was not that long ago, but I agree with the general premise.

[CjC]

Mclaren are going from strength to strength

Valued at £3 billion!!

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/the- ... ip-change/

[venkyhere]

Anything that can challenge McLaren at Monza?

Nothing.
McL39 is so much more improved than McL38 (more than the improvement seen from McL38 v1 -> McL38 v2 at Miami), that this car has zero weakness. Zero. Any downforce setting, any ride height - it's the fastest car for that setting. The pinnacle of this latest ground effect era ruleset.

[bauc]

Gutted for Lando, but maybe the burden of winning the tile if somewhat off, maybe he'll try to enjoy more. He is clearly still in the fight but now even if he losses the title it will be remebered that this DNF impacted the title fight and he won't blame himself too much...

Now..looking into the future (since this season is going soo well), do we have any information about updates for this year and if they already made a complete switch to next years car (which i hope they already made)?

No updates, just track specific stuff to be added on the car as we are 4 months away from the first (private) test in Jerez in mid January.

Going to be very hard for me if I'm working a shakedown test and not allowed to say anything about the new cars

FIA shitshow, they are scared that the new rules will suck big time so they want to conduct a ''private'' test where the media will not be allowed in, meaning no press conference no updates, just posts on social media ect.... so if needed they can as always make kneejerk changes to the rules to avoid disaster ....time will tell.

No matter the fact we are dominating this season, savor it, as we are in for a difficult one or two seasons ahead for the sport in general....

Anyway we went off topic, does anyone knows if NOR will need to use new PU components after his stoppage at the last race, and will this give him a penalty for doing so?