2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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catent wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 21:14
Mercedes did not have the faster car this weekend. By every objective measure, Ferrari was the 3rd fastest team.
They had very different strengths so hard to compare, but the lower downforce spec that Red Bull and Ferrari went with looked to be the better choice.

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It looks like it will be a winless season for Ferrari.
The five podiums won by Ferrari are only due to Leclerc's brilliant driving.
Even if Charles gets pole position in Baku, he has no chance of defending P1 with this sh!t box of a car.

If they start next season in P4-P5, Charles should start looking for a new team.

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woocasz wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 21:47
It looks like it will be a winless season for Ferrari.
The five podiums won by Ferrari are only due to Leclerc's brilliant driving.
Even if Charles gets pole position in Baku, he has no chance of defending P1 with this sh!t box of a car.

If they start next season in P4-P5, Charles should start looking for a new team.
Not sure how knowledgeable you are with English football but I’m getting the Steven Gerrard vibe with Leclerc
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 22:57
woocasz wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 21:47
It looks like it will be a winless season for Ferrari.
The five podiums won by Ferrari are only due to Leclerc's brilliant driving.
Even if Charles gets pole position in Baku, he has no chance of defending P1 with this sh!t box of a car.

If they start next season in P4-P5, Charles should start looking for a new team.
Not sure how knowledgeable you are with English football but I’m getting the Steven Gerrard vibe with Leclerc
yeah, Im quite fimiliar...

https://imgur.com/a/VVX3Pid

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woocasz wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 21:47
It looks like it will be a winless season for Ferrari.
The five podiums won by Ferrari are only due to Leclerc's brilliant driving.
Even if Charles gets pole position in Baku, he has no chance of defending P1 with this sh!t box of a car.

If they start next season in P4-P5, Charles should start looking for a new team.
Leclerc isn't leaving before his current contract ends, that much is clear from his interviews.

Drivers can of course lie but Leclerc often connects his time in Ferrari back to his father and Jules Bianchi. There is real sentimental value and drive for him to stay here.

Besides there isn't any seats available unless we get some weird direct driver swap with Russell or one of the McLarens.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 23:23
woocasz wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 21:47
It looks like it will be a winless season for Ferrari.
The five podiums won by Ferrari are only due to Leclerc's brilliant driving.
Even if Charles gets pole position in Baku, he has no chance of defending P1 with this sh!t box of a car.

If they start next season in P4-P5, Charles should start looking for a new team.
Leclerc isn't leaving before his current contract ends, that much is clear from his interviews.

Drivers can of course lie but Leclerc often connects his time in Ferrari back to his father and Jules Bianchi. There is real sentimental value and drive for him to stay here.

Besides there isn't any seats available unless we get some weird direct driver swap with Russell or one of the McLarens.
Charles has to learn to put more value on his skillset. Here we have Max flirting with Toto , prepared to leave a team that did everything for him, including never putting a competitive driver alongside him.

If Ferrari messes up the start of next year, dude needs to find a way out. His reputation has already been tarnished enough by the messes of Ferrari and more mediocre drivers have now gotten more wins than him. I think seeing either Oscar/Lando win the title before him will really make him question his choices more than ever before.

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Interesting insights from Lewis:
"I think this weekend built a lot on my confidence with the car. Definitely it's still not 100% comfortable in the car. Ultimately that's kind of an alien driving style with a car that I'm not 100% comfortable with, but I think overall our performance was fairly decent.

I think we obviously don't have the pace of the cars much further ahead, so competing for top three is off the cards for a while, but we keep pushing and trying to extract more."

Hamilton explained that more track time has been adding to his confidence. "I think what's clear for me is that I know I've been driving this car all year long, but in my previous years I was a part of a car that you're evolving over time and you're comfortable with it, you know the driving style inside and out, and I think this year I'm arriving at the track and having to apply this new driving style that is still alien to me, it doesn't feel natural, to a car that's how it likes to work. "Through the race I'm just getting better and better and faster and faster and I'm unlocking in that and gaining confidence bit by bit, but that's not there early on in the weekend to really be able to harness it. If we were to be qualifying now, I think I would have been quite a bit quicker, but that's all a part of it. Hopefully next year it's not a driving style that's alien to me, hopefully I can go back a little bit towards what I was used to and..."

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 21:32
catent wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 21:14
Mercedes did not have the faster car this weekend. By every objective measure, Ferrari was the 3rd fastest team.
They had very different strengths so hard to compare, but the lower downforce spec that Red Bull and Ferrari went with looked to be the better choice.
Clearly the lower downforce configuration was the superior option.

Sometime during the front-half of the race (likely between lap 10-20) when Russell was hovering within DRS range of Leclerc but not making a pass, I distinctly recall laughing out loud down the straight between the Lesmos and Ascari when Russell was barely able to pull back 0.1s WITH DRS. That's unreal; even with the reduced drag via DRS + slipstream being behind a car that is <1s ahead, Russell was hardly able to reel Leclerc in by even a tenth of a second.

Once the shiny new tires faded and the initial grip was gone, Russell was no threat, and during the first 8-12 laps when he was a threat, he had nowhere near enough top speed to execute a pass.

If you can find the McLaren hack of tire temp management + a combination of unusually high downforce and unusually low drag (relative to each other), great, then you can have your cake and eat it too. But if you're having to sacrifice one or the other, at Monza, erring on the side of more top speed is almost always the better bet (not only because of the long straights, but because of the relatively few corners and decreased relevance of tire deg/management, which aren't mutually exclusive, obviously).

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yooogurt wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 19:36
more profitable than starting from one place (3 letters starts with a ends with s).
OK, no criticism at all intended here. I'm just being very thick. I can't think what place has 3 letters and starts with a and ends with s....
"From success, you learn absolutely nothing. From failure and setbacks, conclusions can be drawn." - Niki Lauda

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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
08 Sep 2025, 15:51
yooogurt wrote:
07 Sep 2025, 19:36
more profitable than starting from one place (3 letters starts with a ends with s).
OK, no criticism at all intended here. I'm just being very thick. I can't think what place has 3 letters and starts with a and ends with s....
the middle letter is s too
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