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Did Hadjar get the updated parts too? He is so slow.

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2-3 tenths from engine according to Mekies. Another 2-3 tenths from weight. It's a good step compared to the other races. They can resolve the weight issue but the engine side will wait until next year.

I can't decide if it's positive or negative that Hadjar is a 1 second behind. :?
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AR3-GP wrote:
01 May 2026, 23:25
2-3 tenths from engine according to Mekies. Another 2-3 tenths from weight. It's a good step compared to the other races.

I can't decide if it's positive or negative that Hadjar is a 1 second behind. :?
Yes but that's considering Verstappen's time. I think in reality the car is as fast as we can see with Hadjar. It's just that Verstappen is driving in another dimension. Still massive improvement compared to previous qualys.

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Solid…

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it's the first time this year that Verstappen is fast in qualifying, so maybe the rule changes are paying off a bit already.

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The high(er) speed corners are really their weakness now, losing more than half a second in the first sector.
Which is funny, as that was always (even during the worst patches in the GE era) the strength.

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Valeo wrote:
02 May 2026, 00:32
The high(er) speed corners are really their weakness now, losing more than half a second in the first sector.
Which is funny, as that was always (even during the worst patches in the GE era) the strength.
In the ground effect era they were literally floor merchants. They got it working well over a lap pretty much all throughout. They didn't do wing trickery than others and took a while for them to catch on. Right now it should be more straightforward in general I think.
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01 May 2026, 23:28
it's the first time this year that Verstappen is fast in qualifying, so maybe the rule changes are paying off a bit already.

Rule changes don't apply this weekend.

During the extended break, the FIA confirmed a number of changes to the regulations aimed at improving the flat-out nature of qualifying and addressing a number of safety issues.

A release issued at the time noted “a reduction in maximum permitted recharge from 8MJ to 7MJ, aimed at reducing excessive harvesting and encouraging more consistent flat-out driving. This change targets a maximum superclip duration reduced to approximately 2-4 seconds per lap.”

In addition, super clips would be increased from 250kW to 350kW in an effort to reduce their duration.

A Power Unit Information document issued to teams on Thursday in Miami outlined that there is no change to the maximum recharge per lap this weekend, which appeared at odds with the FIA statement.

The document outlines that, in the sprint and race, 9 MJ is available with Overtake active, else drivers have access to 8.5 MJ of recharge per lap. In qualifying that is 8 MJ, and 9 MJ during practice.

Approached for clarification by PlanetF1.com, the FIA has confirmed that the rule change has not been a blanket reduction in the maximum recharge, but the ability for officials to lower the permitted maximum to 7 MJ at some events.

For Miami, with only around two seconds of super clipping expected over the course of a lap, officials opted to leave maximum recharge unchanged. At other venues, that figure can be reduced where super clipping would be more invasive.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/fia-miami ... rification

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venkyhere wrote:
02 May 2026, 07:22
search wrote:
01 May 2026, 23:28
it's the first time this year that Verstappen is fast in qualifying, so maybe the rule changes are paying off a bit already.

Rule changes don't apply this weekend.


https://www.planetf1.com/news/fia-miami ... rification
Yes, most of them did, and it's extensive.

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Seems like RB still hasn't figured out the full throttle to start a lap thing, others have. May be costing them some deployment.

The deficit in S1 to McLaren and Ferrari is mostly deployment related, though they are still not good enough in the high and medium speed. Seems to me like McLaren have found the best energy deployment strategy so far.
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AR3-GP wrote:
02 May 2026, 07:52
venkyhere wrote:
02 May 2026, 07:22
search wrote:
01 May 2026, 23:28
it's the first time this year that Verstappen is fast in qualifying, so maybe the rule changes are paying off a bit already.

Rule changes don't apply this weekend.


https://www.planetf1.com/news/fia-miami ... rification
Yes, most of them did, and it's extensive.

viewtopic.php?p=1341091#p1341091
viewtopic.php?p=1341099#p1341099

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venkyhere wrote:
02 May 2026, 07:22
search wrote:
01 May 2026, 23:28
it's the first time this year that Verstappen is fast in qualifying, so maybe the rule changes are paying off a bit already.

Rule changes don't apply this weekend.
The original plan was to allow 9 mj recharge in Qualifying in Miami. So yeah, they don't use the new mimimum, but still followed the new approach.

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01 May 2026, 20:05
not really, Mercedes sandbagging massively, and Ferrari/McLaren have not turned up the wick fully yet. We'll see the true colours in SQ. My inference is : Max is ~0.5s/lap slower in Q mode and around 0.9s/lap slower in R mode than Mercedes. That's like a 0.5s/lap improvement compared to the first 3 races.

But clearly the 4th fastest car - no more mixing with Haas and Alpine. That's a good sign.
yes !! my 0.5s hunch post FP1 proved right.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/max- ... /10817138/
Hoping that race pace deficit is less than 0.9s/lap and not 1.5/2 s like previous races.

Atleast the car has become predictable to the driver and isn't snapping like an untamed stallion.