2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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gearboxtrouble wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 16:30
I think we can safely put the "AM has a genius Newey (tm) chassis that is let down by Honda" bs to rest. You're not 2.6s a lap down around Monaco without a turd of a chassis - just goes to show that just because you're one of the goat engineers around doesn't mean you can cut it as a team principal.
Yep, the problems seem to be in 3 places.

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They have a premature car that has always been behind schedule, they've been saying this since last year. Obviously, they didnt expect to be this bad, but the biggest concern will be after the summer. If it's not substantially better with the Spec B and ADUO versions in the second half of the season, the whole team will have failed. This car seems like just a stopgap until Newey manages to ajust the wind tunnel and design something truly decent. The second half of the season will be key

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Literally given up on this team.

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Alonso:

"We need to find two or three seconds that are a mix of engine, gearbox, interaction of the energy recovery in the corners and energy deployment on the straights, aerodynamic packages, car philosophy — there are tenths everywhere and we're trying to group them all together into a package for after the summer."

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Rikrikrik wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:27
They have a premature car that has always been behind schedule, they've been saying this since last year. Obviously, they didnt expect to be this bad, but the biggest concern will be after the summer. If it's not substantially better with the Spec B and ADUO versions in the second half of the season, the whole team will have failed. This car seems like just a stopgap until Newey manages to ajust the wind tunnel and design something truly decent. The second half of the season will be key
This. People have the memory of a goldfish and are trying to compare this car to the rest of the teams that have brought large upgrade packages since the start of the season.

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TyreSlip wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:20
Rikrikrik wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:27
They have a premature car that has always been behind schedule, they've been saying this since last year. Obviously, they didnt expect to be this bad, but the biggest concern will be after the summer. If it's not substantially better with the Spec B and ADUO versions in the second half of the season, the whole team will have failed. This car seems like just a stopgap until Newey manages to ajust the wind tunnel and design something truly decent. The second half of the season will be key
This. People have the memory of a goldfish and are trying to compare this car to the rest of the teams that have brought large upgrade packages since the start of the season.
Thats a deflection aston martin fans have been saying the car is great but now its about missing upgrade.these is the one track-were greatness should have been demonstrated but it has fallen flat

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TyreSlip wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:20
Rikrikrik wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:27
They have a premature car that has always been behind schedule, they've been saying this since last year. Obviously, they didnt expect to be this bad, but the biggest concern will be after the summer. If it's not substantially better with the Spec B and ADUO versions in the second half of the season, the whole team will have failed. This car seems like just a stopgap until Newey manages to ajust the wind tunnel and design something truly decent. The second half of the season will be key
This. People have the memory of a goldfish and are trying to compare this car to the rest of the teams that have brought large upgrade packages since the start of the season.
Really ? Why don't we take a trip down memory lane and bring back images of the 'grand gala' where Newey was paraded like a movie star at a hollywood film launch. How pathetic does that seem now ?

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Bill wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:28
TyreSlip wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:20
Rikrikrik wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:27
They have a premature car that has always been behind schedule, they've been saying this since last year. Obviously, they didnt expect to be this bad, but the biggest concern will be after the summer. If it's not substantially better with the Spec B and ADUO versions in the second half of the season, the whole team will have failed. This car seems like just a stopgap until Newey manages to ajust the wind tunnel and design something truly decent. The second half of the season will be key
This. People have the memory of a goldfish and are trying to compare this car to the rest of the teams that have brought large upgrade packages since the start of the season.
Thats a deflection aston martin fans have been saying the car is great but now its about missing upgrade.these is the one track-were greatness should have been demonstrated but it has fallen flat
No one said the car was great. Strawman argument by you.

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venkyhere wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:35
TyreSlip wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:20
Rikrikrik wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:27
They have a premature car that has always been behind schedule, they've been saying this since last year. Obviously, they didnt expect to be this bad, but the biggest concern will be after the summer. If it's not substantially better with the Spec B and ADUO versions in the second half of the season, the whole team will have failed. This car seems like just a stopgap until Newey manages to ajust the wind tunnel and design something truly decent. The second half of the season will be key
This. People have the memory of a goldfish and are trying to compare this car to the rest of the teams that have brought large upgrade packages since the start of the season.
Really ? Why don't we take a trip down memory lane and bring back images of the 'grand gala' where Newey was paraded like a movie star at a hollywood film launch. How pathetic does that seem now ?
I do not know what a big press release for Newey's arrival has anything to do with a B-spec car being strategically withheld until the Honda upgrade.

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TyreSlip wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:58
Bill wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:28
TyreSlip wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:20


This. People have the memory of a goldfish and are trying to compare this car to the rest of the teams that have brought large upgrade packages since the start of the season.
Thats a deflection aston martin fans have been saying the car is great but now its about missing upgrade.these is the one track-were greatness should have been demonstrated but it has fallen flat
No one said the car was great. Strawman argument by you.
check all the arguments after canada gp all the blame is put on honda

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Bill wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:11
TyreSlip wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:58
Bill wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:28


Thats a deflection aston martin fans have been saying the car is great but now its about missing upgrade.these is the one track-were greatness should have been demonstrated but it has fallen flat
No one said the car was great. Strawman argument by you.
check all the arguments after canada gp all the blame is put on honda
No one said the car was great.

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Bill wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:11
TyreSlip wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:58
Bill wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:28


Thats a deflection aston martin fans have been saying the car is great but now its about missing upgrade.these is the one track-were greatness should have been demonstrated but it has fallen flat
No one said the car was great. Strawman argument by you.
check all the arguments after canada gp all the blame is put on honda
Aston’s chassis is bad, the engine is prohibitively awful. The Honda is so bad and unreliable that it becomes almost impossible to develop the rest of the car.

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Newey himself said it was the 5th best chassis , with the worse PU/ recovery/ harvesting and a gearbox that looks to be a huge issue as well. With zero real upgrades so far this season except making sure the car doesn’t rattle itself or the drivers to death, the least amount of running of all the major teams, it is no wonder this season is a disaster. I also think the ludicrous “By Design” marketing, introduction of the car, was really ridiculous now with the knowledge the team had on how shite the project was at that stage. 2027 should be the goal, not the second half of this season. The FIA needs to come out with the revised rules asap so this team can scrap this turd and try again. That means Honda and Aston working together to build a competitive car. Probably should let Honda build the damn gearbox as well ffs 🤦🏻.

The car was seconds off the pace around Monaco , and could not pull 7th gear because of a lack of power. Alonso had a huge snap sideways coming out of the tunnel under braking, due to the crap gearbox and harvesting they have. That is ridiculous and shows how unsorted the car is as a package, not just how horrible the Honda PU is. It is everything as Alonso stated, not just the Honda lump. Making a B Spec of this car doesn’t seem like a good use of $$ and time. Scrap it and try again guys for 2027 so when you show up for preseason you might be able to run laps and collect data, unlike this year.

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Badger wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:33
Bill wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:11
TyreSlip wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:58


No one said the car was great. Strawman argument by you.
check all the arguments after canada gp all the blame is put on honda
Aston’s chassis is bad, the engine is prohibitively awful. The Honda is so bad and unreliable that it becomes almost impossible to develop the rest of the car.
its an exaggeration most reliability issues were related to vibration .seat issue or whatever excuse aston come up with to retire the car.i think people are embarrassed to admit they were dead wrong about chassis

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V10FURY wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:44
Scrap it and try again guys for 2027 so when you show up for preseason you might be able to run laps and collect data, unlike this year.
They basically doing this now and they will try again after the summer break. There, if they dont jump to the midfield, they will need close the doors and sell the company.