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Are there any info if Charles car suffered any damage?
And if it will be repaired so he can start from p4 or just from the pitlane perhaps?

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f1316 wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:27
Does anyone have the data on where leclerc was before he put it in the wall? Seemed like he did a better first sector so might have been up?

Very frustrating not to get pole here. Maybe the starts will come to the rescue but it should have been better imho - combination of team, tyres and drivers not maximising. Charles can speak of issues but someone like a Max (or Michael) can be struggling all weekend and still maximise when it matters. I was holding for/expecting a Senna-esque lap from him right at the death but he messed it up and tbh that happens too often if he’s really going to be in Max’s level.
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Leclerc sectors time. He did personal best but unlikely close enough to challenge for pole.
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Only the true greats have the ability to consistently drive at 99% of the car's potential, keeping that crucial 1% safety margin to avoid losing grip. They just feel the limit instinctively. Highly fast impulsive drivers only find that limit when they cross it and crash the car.
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avantman wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 21:16
f1316 wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:27
Does anyone have the data on where leclerc was before he put it in the wall? Seemed like he did a better first sector so might have been up?

Very frustrating not to get pole here. Maybe the starts will come to the rescue but it should have been better imho - combination of team, tyres and drivers not maximising. Charles can speak of issues but someone like a Max (or Michael) can be struggling all weekend and still maximise when it matters. I was holding for/expecting a Senna-esque lap from him right at the death but he messed it up and tbh that happens too often if he’s really going to be in Max’s level.
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Leclerc sectors time. He did personal best but unlikely close enough to challenge for pole.
https://ibb.co/KpW7JwBS
He crashed in S2 so that best sector doesn't really show what he was doing. He was setting purple in S2 before the crash as you can see from the mini-sectors which came after the laps of Verstappen and Antonelli. Ferrari had 2-3 tenths all weekend on everyone there. He would have been in a 33.7 or something like that. It was a pole lap, until it wasn't.

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djones wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:11
Fully expected Hamilton to be the faster driver now the sim is no longer used.
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Luscion wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 18:51
Charles:






Lewis:

Lewis explained it pretty good.
Balance was shifting and he had to adjust the wing, take off downforce to keep it out of the wall. I wonder which way Charles went down?
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Damn thought either Charles or Lewis would snag pole today. Sheesh that Kimi is on fire so far this season, and Max being Max yet again….

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AR3-GP wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 20:59
bluechris wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:37
I love Leclerc for going full beans. Ok sometime it bite's back but its ok by me .
The constant romanticization of Leclerc's errors is so fascinating to me. Why do people do this? Were the other drivers only going half beans? Ferrari was the fastest car here.
Lewis Hamilton: "Pole position was a possibility for our car".
I agree - the skill is in threading the needle and the greats do that consistently, with errors the exception, not the rule. Leclerc really needs to change this or he’ll solidify himself as good, not great.

Really a shame to see that he was up until that point - imho that was one of the type of moments that are defining in a career. The last one on a flying lap, that was his moment to do something special … such a shame.

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MattLightBlue wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:47
This is the case when you have to try, your home gp when if you start first you essentially win.
It’s not that big deal, much worse to me is the fact that neither Ham nor Lec got the pole.
Ferrari looked to have the fastest car there, but certainly not the quickest drivers. It must be very frustrating for Ferrari´s engineers to hand out the best car at Monaco to see drivers of higher caliber snatch pole away from your car....
djones wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:11
Fully expected Hamilton to be the faster driver now the sim is no longer used.
Mate, how long have you been waiting to hype this guy again? 6 years ? :) Thankfully, Leclerc´s mistakes allowed some relief for you guys there :lol:

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Reading this from Lewis, my guess is that Ferrari failed to account for the improved track conditions: https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-ham ... qualifying

The fact he’s saying they didn’t go the wrong way with setup - with only the tiniest tweaks overnight - yet ended up with a completely different balance, has all the hallmarks of a track that changed and a car that didn’t go with it.

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AR3-GP wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 20:59

I love Leclerc for going full beans. Ok sometime it bite's back but its ok by me .
bluechris wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:37
The constant romanticization of Leclerc's errors is so fascinating to me. Why do people do this? Were the other drivers only going half beans? Ferrari was the fastest car here.
Lewis Hamilton: "Pole position was a possibility for our car".
If we had to like a driver for going full beans regardless of the consequences, I'd put Maldonado among the best. But nobody rates Maldonado high.

As I said months ago: A championship-caliber driver has to understand the car's limits and gauge whether the risks of overdrive outweigh the possible outcomes. It's this ability that separates the champion driver from just a good driver.

The "P1 or wall" mentality isn't sustainable when you can't even get P1 driving at 110% of the car. In other words, you're overdriving the car to stay in the same place, only increasing your chances of crashing. This is something Leclerc needs to get into his head before he retires, or he'll be remembered as a Jean Alesi 2.0: The eternal promise.

A safe P3 is always better than crashing trying to get P2. That's the true mentality of a champion.

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edu2703 wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 01:38
AR3-GP wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 20:59

I love Leclerc for going full beans. Ok sometime it bite's back but its ok by me .
bluechris wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:37
The constant romanticization of Leclerc's errors is so fascinating to me. Why do people do this? Were the other drivers only going half beans? Ferrari was the fastest car here.
Lewis Hamilton: "Pole position was a possibility for our car".
If we had to like a driver for going full beans regardless of the consequences, I'd put Maldonado among the best. But nobody rates Maldonado high.

As I said months ago: A championship-caliber driver has to understand the car's limits and gauge whether the risks of overdrive outweigh the possible outcomes. It's this ability that separates the champion driver from just a good driver.

The "P1 or wall" mentality isn't sustainable when you can't even get P1 driving at 110% of the car. In other words, you're overdriving the car to stay in the same place, only increasing your chances of crashing. This is something Leclerc needs to get into his head before he retires, or he'll be remembered as a Jean Alesi 2.0: The eternal promise.

A safe P3 is always better than crashing trying to get P2. That's the true mentality of a champion.
Agreed - my only addition is that the real great have a feel for the limit that means they more often than not judge the risk right so they don’t have to “settle” for the safe positions, they maximise the theoretical grip limit. In the late 90’s - when Ferrari’s cars weren’t yet the fastest but were close enough - Michael would do this time and again (the ‘97 and ‘98 cars were not championship challenging calibre cars).

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Disappointing qualifying considering there was pace in the car for pole as Hamilton said.

Leclerc is a qualifying monster, more so on this track pushing like an animal. However, nowhere else driver confidence is as important as in Monaco and this time around he didn’t have enough confidence in the brakes (calling them “horrendous” right at the end of FP3). That’s a byproduct of the current engine formula. No wonder a few drivers felt the urge to tell how today’s cars are the worst they’ve ever driven on this track.
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search wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 17:07
looks like Ferrari missed the loophole to add wings to the rear wing actuator for Monaco only
catent wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 18:29
search wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 17:07
looks like Ferrari missed the loophole to add wings to the rear wing actuator for Monaco only
I doubt the team that thought-up FTM and halo winglets would miss a seemingly more obvious “legality box” engineering possibility. Monaco is a big race for Leclerc and the team, and they brought a Monaco-specific rear-wing in either 2024 or 2025, if I remember correctly.

When weighing the potential downforce gains from such a design against their power deficit, already high downforce levels, and the FTM, my guess is that any gains would likely be diminishing returns.

Search was correct, fyi.
It was certainly a point not lost on Lewis Hamilton, who referenced that Ferrari had potentially missed a trick in not chasing the same exploit.

Asked by The Race about the factors that had gone against the squad, Hamilton said: “Apart from wanting more downforce globally, I think when we arrived on Thursday we saw other people, those guys, with trick additions to their wing.

“We didn’t have that, which was a little bit of a surprise.”
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AR3-GP wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 21:32
avantman wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 21:16
f1316 wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 19:27
Does anyone have the data on where leclerc was before he put it in the wall? Seemed like he did a better first sector so might have been up?

Very frustrating not to get pole here. Maybe the starts will come to the rescue but it should have been better imho - combination of team, tyres and drivers not maximising. Charles can speak of issues but someone like a Max (or Michael) can be struggling all weekend and still maximise when it matters. I was holding for/expecting a Senna-esque lap from him right at the death but he messed it up and tbh that happens too often if he’s really going to be in Max’s level.
https://ibb.co/dJ0MQDZN
Leclerc sectors time. He did personal best but unlikely close enough to challenge for pole.
https://ibb.co/KpW7JwBS
He crashed in S2 so that best sector doesn't really show what he was doing. He was setting purple in S2 before the crash as you can see from the mini-sectors which came after the laps of Verstappen and Antonelli. Ferrari had 2-3 tenths all weekend on everyone there. He would have been in a 33.7 or something like that. It was a pole lap, until it wasn't.

https://i.postimg.cc/V6KZZfpz/image.png
33.7 or something?have you hot anything to back that up or you just through numbers in order to big Kimi’s pole up? Nah, Ferrari could be on pole indeed had they not twicked the car upsetting its balance on Friday but to say their car was 2-3 tenths faster than Mercedes would be too much. Way too much. Also makes no sense to say Ferrari had a couple of tenths on anyone whole weekend. They obviously had them on Friday, if we assume all had same fuel load and engine settings. But we know Mercedes completely changed their setup overnight as Kimk said making car much better. It was completely different car In FP3 Kimi put 1:12.720
Which makes his pole lap time of 1:12.051 not that impressive. He only matched his FP3 time in his best and final run in Q2, whereas the track was undeniably a lot faster by that point than in practice. He actually made a big mistake in S3 losing 3 tenths, otherwise he would’ve finished Q2 on top as well, over a tenths up on Max. So, realistically it was Mercedes who had a tenth on red bull driven by faster driver, and 2-3 tenths on Ferrari all Saturday. FP3, Q2 and Q3.