2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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The Lewis switching to Carbon Industry brakes is a lie people tell every two races. Lol.

As far as I know, he has been developing the brakes with Brembo and Brembo alone.

He struggled with them all year and the brake disks you are seeing know would have been baking in the oven, literally and figuratively after months of working together. The CI brakes would not have been suited to this new Ferrari car. There is simply no data for them to build on.

Anyway.. Charles is complaining but people are also saying he was very quick?! Then it obviously not affecting his ultimate pace then. It means he is having issues with braking under changing conditions. I feel this is the rear brake pads and the engine braking settings.
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Oh by the way... the Lewis Hamilton mind games are begining... He nearly called out Charles in the post race interview.
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Anyone seen the news that Ferrari qualified for the higher ADUO?

The most interesting thing is that Mercedes qualified too for the smaller upgrade path.

Turns out Red Bull have the best engine!
Red Bull Has the Strongest 2026 Engine - Mercedes & Ferrari Get Major ADUO Concessions
https://autoracer.it/clamoroso-aduo-fia ... s-ferrari/
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Hamilton's words are that the team "moved mountains" to make him a car he is comfortable with and I've never heard such rhetoric surrounding Leclerc at any point while driving for this team.

PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Jun 2026, 01:52
Oh by the way... the Lewis Hamilton mind games are begining... He nearly called out Charles in the post race interview.
mind games and calling out? The hypocrisy is astonishing.

When you think that getting humbled for 5 seasons would give him a bit of perspective...

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It’s absolutely crazy that the brakes failed during the SC. Leclerc said 3 out of 4 brakes didn’t work as expected, with the rear ones not braking at all. Could have been extremely dangerous in a different situation.

Maybe these issues started in Canada only because it was the first real stop and go track of the season where you need to really stress the brakes. Hopefully the solution (whatever it is) for Spain will work.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Jun 2026, 01:46
The Lewis switching to Carbon Industry brakes is a lie people tell every two races. Lol.

As far as I know, he has been developing the brakes with Brembo and Brembo alone.

He struggled with them all year and the brake disks you are seeing know would have been baking in the oven, literally and figuratively after months of working together. The CI brakes would not have been suited to this new Ferrari car. There is simply no data for them to build on.

Anyway.. Charles is complaining but people are also saying he was very quick?! Then it obviously not affecting his ultimate pace then. It means he is having issues with braking under changing conditions. I feel this is the rear brake pads and the engine braking settings.
You are right this day and edge you believe you can switch brake brand like that.
Brembo has also been so from the history of the whole company. All these years a sponsor.
It is not just a component from some shelf at a manufactorer anymore.

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Maybe is not a brake material issue. Maybe not a Brembo vs CI thing.

But maybe in the search for performance they have modified the brake blending strategy since Miami just to allow for the MGU-K more time to recover kinetic energy. And maybe now the transition from MGU-K to brakes is more abrupt and if the brake are not perfect temp they are inconsistent when this transition happens.

From the articles shared here, I understand that the Brembo should be more linear gain with the pedal application but the Carbon Industry should be more of step and hold gain.
It might be a matter of the CI works/steps in more consistently with the new MGU-K brake blending strategy since Miami.

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deadhead wrote:
08 Jun 2026, 08:12
Hamilton's words are that the team "moved mountains" to make him a car he is comfortable with and I've never heard such rhetoric surrounding Leclerc at any point while driving for this team.

PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Jun 2026, 01:52
Oh by the way... the Lewis Hamilton mind games are begining... He nearly called out Charles in the post race interview.
mind games and calling out? The hypocrisy is astonishing.

When you think that getting humbled for 5 seasons would give him a bit of perspective...
Leclerc had been with Ferrari for how many years now? His influences/wants should already be in their cars.

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deadhead wrote:
08 Jun 2026, 08:12
Hamilton's words are that the team "moved mountains" to make him a car he is comfortable with and I've never heard such rhetoric surrounding Leclerc at any point while driving for this team.

PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Jun 2026, 01:52
Oh by the way... the Lewis Hamilton mind games are begining... He nearly called out Charles in the post race interview.
mind games and calling out? The hypocrisy is astonishing.

When you think that getting humbled for 5 seasons would give him a bit of perspective...
what has Leclerc achieved in 10 years at Ferrari other than blaming the team or his teammate?
if the brakes were bad why is Hamilton the only one that has decided to change them

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Luscion wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:21
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07 Jun 2026, 23:07
Yeah Brembo is italian and Ferrari probably wanted to pretend they still use them on both cars, and now leclerc had enough and wants to burn it all down, lol.
It's just the brake discs that are Carbon Industries, the rest of the system is still brembo
Are you sure? I heard master cylinder too. Not that I have experience but would the ‘feel’ be sufficiently altered with just a disc change?
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From my crude point of view, it looks like Lewis basically has a brake configuration that works great for qualifying but has worse race pace. It was quite clear that Charles was a lot faster in Monaco during the race. Feels like the effect is amplified in hotter conditions too

I would not be surprised if the race pace of Charles suffers because of the switch, which is a shame. It would make us the 4th faster team whenever Redbull and Mclaren manage to complete their weekends properly.

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Seems HAM might’ve dismissed an early mode change which reduced power for fuel saving, only for LiCo central later to compensate:

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Xyz22 wrote:
08 Jun 2026, 09:23
It’s absolutely crazy that the brakes failed during the SC. Leclerc said 3 out of 4 brakes didn’t work as expected, with the rear ones not braking at all. Could have been extremely dangerous in a different situation.

Maybe these issues started in Canada only because it was the first real stop and go track of the season where you need to really stress the brakes. Hopefully the solution (whatever it is) for Spain will work.
If it's a similar to the problem Stroll had - they crashed in the same place too- it's to do with the engine braking/ energy management. Stroll did a good job of describing what went wrong too. It's the unique traits of Monaco with these energy rules.
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Sphere3758 wrote:
08 Jun 2026, 13:19
From my crude point of view, it looks like Lewis basically has a brake configuration that works great for qualifying but has worse race pace. It was quite clear that Charles was a lot faster in Monaco during the race. Feels like the effect is amplified in hotter conditions too

I would not be surprised if the race pace of Charles suffers because of the switch, which is a shame. It would make us the 4th faster team whenever Redbull and Mclaren manage to complete their weekends properly.
Since the brakes are used to help these Pirelli tires to warm up it could indeed be the reason Hamilton has worse deg overall under normal race conditions.