2026 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, June 05 - 07

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basti313 wrote:
09 Jun 2026, 15:28
mzso wrote:
09 Jun 2026, 13:43
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09 Jun 2026, 13:40


I'd think pitting right away is a normal thing to do, as otherwise there's always the risk to get queued up behind the safety car and lose positions the next time around. Even if that didn't turn out to be the case this Sunday.
There were few laps remaining. A pit stop wasn't a must.
Well, Lec could have just stayed out if he would have wanted to do so. He knew about the lap count, his tires and the 5sec pen on Ham.
Overriding the team without any info given about anything is a tough call. He tends to trust the team, god knows why.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
09 Jun 2026, 23:51
How strange that the team decided to do what is best for the team? Maximize the result while minimizing risk.

If they left him out I am sure that they would be blamed for the crash - "they left him out on bad tires"
He might not have crashed with tires up to working temperature, despite the brakes.

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There might be another factor in play as well:


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I really think there was a massive missed opportunity to put these regs to good use in Monaco and aid overtaking:

Everyone says overtaking is ‘impossible’ but you only need to watch a formula e race at Monaco to know that’s not a limitation of the track but of the nature of the cars. When an FE car is in attack mode, they can easily get by one that isn’t - the key is that this happens on the way *out* of corners, not the way in.

Given the cars were so energy rick AND they’d limited how much power could be used, they ought to have created a map for anyone in boost mode that increases the relative amount of electrical energy available lower down in the torque curve not at the top end.

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f1316 wrote:
10 Jun 2026, 16:29
I really think there was a massive missed opportunity to put these regs to good use in Monaco and aid overtaking:

Everyone says overtaking is ‘impossible’ but you only need to watch a formula e race at Monaco to know that’s not a limitation of the track but of the nature of the cars. When an FE car is in attack mode, they can easily get by one that isn’t - the key is that this happens on the way *out* of corners, not the way in.

Given the cars were so energy rick AND they’d limited how much power could be used, they ought to have created a map for anyone in boost mode that increases the relative amount of electrical energy available lower down in the torque curve not at the top end.
That is a good idea, but I fear it simply would not work, unless they further reduce the standard power. By a lot:
- F1 is not using DRS since years in the tunnel. I have no clue why, but they do not. They also reduced the power due to this section. So anything to overtake needs to be taken away from the normal power as they somehow have big doubts about fast cars in the tunnel. This is giving a political issue. If they further reduce the power, they are quickly not quick anymore.
- Start Finish is in the end always a "yield or crash" situation into T1. The overtake can simply not be applied in a useful way there.
Don`t russel the hamster!

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basti313 wrote:
10 Jun 2026, 17:02
f1316 wrote:
10 Jun 2026, 16:29
I really think there was a massive missed opportunity to put these regs to good use in Monaco and aid overtaking:

Everyone says overtaking is ‘impossible’ but you only need to watch a formula e race at Monaco to know that’s not a limitation of the track but of the nature of the cars. When an FE car is in attack mode, they can easily get by one that isn’t - the key is that this happens on the way *out* of corners, not the way in.

Given the cars were so energy rick AND they’d limited how much power could be used, they ought to have created a map for anyone in boost mode that increases the relative amount of electrical energy available lower down in the torque curve not at the top end.
That is a good idea, but I fear it simply would not work, unless they further reduce the standard power. By a lot:
- F1 is not using DRS since years in the tunnel. I have no clue why, but they do not. They also reduced the power due to this section. So anything to overtake needs to be taken away from the normal power as they somehow have big doubts about fast cars in the tunnel. This is giving a political issue. If they further reduce the power, they are quickly not quick anymore.
- Start Finish is in the end always a "yield or crash" situation into T1. The overtake can simply not be applied in a useful way there.
But the point is that the boost doesn’t need to make any difference to top speed, it should impact acceleration. That’s what gets moves done in formula e - it’s not under braking, it’s in places like coming out of the nouvelle chicane, very early in the short straight (way before tabac)

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Monaco penalties being reviewed after shock error revealedhttps://www.the-race.com/formula-1/alpi ... -reviewed/
However, Alpine has successfully presented new, significant and relevant evidence in a right of review hearing held on Thursday - leading to an immediate second hearing to actually review the penalties, which began at 1.20pm local time in Spain on Thursday.

The crux of Alpine’s case is the stunning revelation that Formula One Management provided evidence that the distance used in calculating the official timing - and the pitlane speed - was “inaccurate and overestimated the speed” Gasly was travelling at.

The clown show continues.

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Has anybody worked out the change in finishing positions if all drivers' speeding penalties are removed?

I presume George Russell would also have to have the drive through penalty removed too. Likely getting very complicated very quickly. Do you think we'll see other teams lodge complaints/appeals too?

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They wont change George’s position because be finished there on track. Its impossible to retrofactual your way to unscrambling the egg there. Even with Gasly my guess is what has happened has happened and they will make changes to how they measure the pit lane speed in future events.

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dodds_turbo wrote:
11 Jun 2026, 17:03
Has anybody worked out the change in finishing positions if all drivers' speeding penalties are removed?

I presume George Russell would also have to have the drive through penalty removed too. Likely getting very complicated very quickly. Do you think we'll see other teams lodge complaints/appeals too?
No way will they will remove the drive through penalty, that and the stop/go are final, no matter what. They might have removed the 5s penalty, but that wasn't even served.
I don't think the other driver's time penalties will be removed, even if they do it for Gasly. They didn't appeal.