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SB15 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 16:50
bananapeel23 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 16:25
sucof wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 16:04


No funny business?? Ferrari indeed brought the most expensive nose holder in the paddock, according to that picture!

Jokes aside, they already had their similar winglet there, and I doubt putting in that more development time and money would have given them any measurable time benefit.
I can’t find the part of the regulations that even allows for the Mercedes and Red Bull solutions. I would assume it’s the rear wing rotation fairing. But all rear wing auxiliary components, including the fairing, have to be obscured from below and from the side with rear wing assembly mounted. These elements are very much visible from the side as far as I can tell, unless they are obscured by the endplate. It doesn’t appear like it, however.
Since they're other teams like McLaren and Audi with the solution, I think we can all conclude that this is very much allowed and a massive gray area that can be exploited.
Don’t get me wrong. I think it’s entirely legal. I just don’t understand how it is. The part I find most odd is that the Mercedes solution is entirely above the 3rd wing element, while the McLaren and Red Bull solutions are partially below it.

It also surely isn’t the same legal loophole that allows the Mercedes 4th elements on the outside of the wing, since there are too many of them.

I just can’t find what regulation box/volume they fit within.

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bananapeel23 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 18:53
SB15 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 16:50
bananapeel23 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 16:25


I can’t find the part of the regulations that even allows for the Mercedes and Red Bull solutions. I would assume it’s the rear wing rotation fairing. But all rear wing auxiliary components, including the fairing, have to be obscured from below and from the side with rear wing assembly mounted. These elements are very much visible from the side as far as I can tell, unless they are obscured by the endplate. It doesn’t appear like it, however.
Since they're other teams like McLaren and Audi with the solution, I think we can all conclude that this is very much allowed and a massive gray area that can be exploited.
Don’t get me wrong. I think it’s entirely legal. I just don’t understand how it is. The part I find most odd is that the Mercedes solution is entirely above the 3rd wing element, while the McLaren and Red Bull solutions are partially below it.

It also surely isn’t the same legal loophole that allows the Mercedes 4th elements on the outside of the wing, since there are too many of them.

I just can’t find what regulation box/volume they fit within.
RW−FAIRING I believe. Supposed to be fairing for the actuator. The other tiny wings from earlier races are RW−BRACKET(s).

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FNTC wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 19:05
bananapeel23 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 18:53
SB15 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 16:50


Since they're other teams like McLaren and Audi with the solution, I think we can all conclude that this is very much allowed and a massive gray area that can be exploited.
Don’t get me wrong. I think it’s entirely legal. I just don’t understand how it is. The part I find most odd is that the Mercedes solution is entirely above the 3rd wing element, while the McLaren and Red Bull solutions are partially below it.

It also surely isn’t the same legal loophole that allows the Mercedes 4th elements on the outside of the wing, since there are too many of them.

I just can’t find what regulation box/volume they fit within.
RW−FAIRING I believe. Supposed to be fairing for the actuator. The other tiny wings from earlier races are RW−BRACKET(s).
I mist have misinterpreted 3.11 f, thinking that it wouldn’t be allowed, since RW auxiliaries can not be visible from both the side and below. These are very clearly visible from the side. I must’ve misinterpreted ”both” as an ”or” in this case, when it could realistically be an ”and”.

Very poor wording of the regs.

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bananapeel23 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 21:24
FNTC wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 19:05
bananapeel23 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 18:53


Don’t get me wrong. I think it’s entirely legal. I just don’t understand how it is. The part I find most odd is that the Mercedes solution is entirely above the 3rd wing element, while the McLaren and Red Bull solutions are partially below it.

It also surely isn’t the same legal loophole that allows the Mercedes 4th elements on the outside of the wing, since there are too many of them.

I just can’t find what regulation box/volume they fit within.
RW−FAIRING I believe. Supposed to be fairing for the actuator. The other tiny wings from earlier races are RW−BRACKET(s).
I mist have misinterpreted 3.11 f, thinking that it wouldn’t be allowed, since RW auxiliaries can not be visible from both the side and below. These are very clearly visible from the side. I must’ve misinterpreted ”both” as an ”or” in this case, when it could realistically be an ”and”.

Very poor wording of the regs.
I still tend to believe that Ferrari explored this possibility and simply found it wasn’t worth much.

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catent wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 22:20
bananapeel23 wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 21:24
FNTC wrote:
04 Jun 2026, 19:05


RW−FAIRING I believe. Supposed to be fairing for the actuator. The other tiny wings from earlier races are RW−BRACKET(s).
I mist have misinterpreted 3.11 f, thinking that it wouldn’t be allowed, since RW auxiliaries can not be visible from both the side and below. These are very clearly visible from the side. I must’ve misinterpreted ”both” as an ”or” in this case, when it could realistically be an ”and”.

Very poor wording of the regs.
I still tend to believe that Ferrari explored this possibility and simply found it wasn’t worth much.
The Race said it’s believed to be hundredths at best, plus talked about other issues with deployment (bizarrely because of TOO MUCH available energy in Monaco :lol: ) that should affect Ferrari the least.

If anything you could argue this is a bandaid for the teams most worried about Monaco and who therefore need all the help they can get, whereas Ferrari should be naturally suited to the task. I’m curious to see how Haas fair.

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Here’s #Ferrari’s suspension wishbone modification for the #MonacoGP

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Small modification to the last element of #Ferrari’s diffuser for the #MonacoGP.

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Well so we have wing diffusors now?

That structure looks really interesting, also the combination of the endplate wings to turn the air down and out.

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Luscion wrote:
10 Jun 2026, 16:36
New front wing at Barcelona https://autoracer.it/ferrari-ecco-le-pr ... lla-sf-26/
Has the bottom of the footplate always been like that or is that new as well?
Felipe Baby!

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SiLo wrote:
10 Jun 2026, 17:26
Luscion wrote:
10 Jun 2026, 16:36
New front wing at Barcelona https://autoracer.it/ferrari-ecco-le-pr ... lla-sf-26/
Has the bottom of the footplate always been like that or is that new as well?
Must be new, 1 iteration before the footplate connected low to the endplate, now it connects high giving chanse to make these winglets.

Here how it looked like before:
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Luscion wrote:
10 Jun 2026, 16:36
New front wing at Barcelona https://autoracer.it/ferrari-ecco-le-pr ... lla-sf-26/
There’s that big ol’ vane Lewis was saying they were missing - let’s see if it actually makes a big difference.

Separately, I keep hearing Jonathan Noble (and only him) saying that the Ferrari is “draggy”. I’ll be curious to see if any of this package looks like it relates to drag reduction as I’ve not heard anyone else say that.

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f1316 wrote:
11 Jun 2026, 00:06
Luscion wrote:
10 Jun 2026, 16:36
New front wing at Barcelona https://autoracer.it/ferrari-ecco-le-pr ... lla-sf-26/
There’s that big ol’ vane Lewis was saying they were missing - let’s see if it actually makes a big difference.

Separately, I keep hearing Jonathan Noble (and only him) saying that the Ferrari is “draggy”. I’ll be curious to see if any of this package looks like it relates to drag reduction as I’ve not heard anyone else say that.
It’s underpowered not draggy
Felipe Baby!