2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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I think you guys are over thinking this.
  • The battery is only allowed to store 4MJ.
  • Deployment is between 7MJ and 9MJ depending on the circuit drivers also get an extra 0.5MJ in overtake mode.
  • Supper clipping is 350kw, but can only be done when the ICE is at 100% throttle on the straits and in strait line mode.
  • Regular harvesting is done under breaking and during lift and cost and is capped at 250 kw.
On each track strait line mode can only be used in designated segments of the track.
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What teams are working on is trying to harvest as much as they can under breaking because it's free energy. After all you have to slow the car or you will end up in the gravel or a wall. Lico and super clipping is used to make up the difference so they can achieve maximum deployment per lap.
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What do we think about FP performance?

My take is that, given the evaluation of new parts, it’s impossible to read too much in. The car looks well balanced in Charles’ hands but I suspect this track requires too much on throttle to compete with the Mercedes powered cars. Also tyre wear doesn’t seem to be our strength, unless the upgrade helps with that (?)

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f1316 wrote:
12 Jun 2026, 21:50
What do we think about FP performance?

My take is that, given the evaluation of new parts, it’s impossible to read too much in. The car looks well balanced in Charles’ hands but I suspect this track requires too much on throttle to compete with the Mercedes powered cars. Also tyre wear doesn’t seem to be our strength, unless the upgrade helps with that (?)
Cause for cautious optimism on that last point:
On the medium tyres, Leclerc was fastest in the long run, averaging 1'21"696 over seven laps, ahead of Russell (1'21"788 over nine laps) and with a wider margin over Piastri (1'22"336 over seven laps). Track evolution requires caution when interpreting this data for the race, but the consistency shown by the SF-26 is nevertheless an encouraging sign.
Reporting a step with the updates although probably still this won’t be enough to be properly competitive without a new engine: https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10829666/

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Charles is back to prove himself again that he is the number one in the team. That done though, it won't look so amazing because I predict we will finish 5th and 6th!
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
12 Jun 2026, 23:33
Charles is back to prove himself again that he is the number one in the team.
The team has a new number one for sure

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dans79 wrote:
12 Jun 2026, 18:34
mzso wrote:
12 Jun 2026, 18:05
All the talk was about superclipping, and I didn't hear unusually high engine power in turns. So I doubtful about this.
Supper clipping is controversial because it makes the drivers vulnerable at the end of the strait and they don't like it.

you can read this or you can look at the rules directly.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... cIpGzoWkY0
Cars will harvest energy to charge the battery when braking, on part throttle, when lifting off (when a driver lifts off the throttle early – often referred to as lift and coast) or when ‘super clipping’ (when some harvesting happens at the end of the straight when a car is still at full throttle – although this depends on the particular engine map being used, the circuit profile, and the overall Recharge energy allowance for that circuit, which varies as per the regulations).

Most of the time, the Recharge will be automated by use of selectable Recharge maps and targets so braking, part throttle and super clip will all be automated functions controlled by the ECU. The only Recharge mode the driver will have direct control of will be lift-off regen, whereby if the driver lifts off, then they can Recharge. However, doing this will disable the Active devices as well. In contrast, super clipping is still at full throttle and therefore the Active Aero will still be ‘open’.
Yes they could use all of that. But since superclipping is the best to go around fastest that's what they use.

I don't know why you said "the battery doesn't have enough capacity to just super clip". It's paradoxical, if the capacity is too low then you need less generation, not more.
dans79 wrote:
12 Jun 2026, 19:20
What teams are working on is trying to harvest as much as they can under breaking because it's free energy. After all you have to slow the car or you will end up in the gravel or a wall. Lico and super clipping is used to make up the difference so they can achieve maximum deployment per lap.
No, they obviously super-clip a lot. Regen braking is not harvesting, obviously they use that to max capacity, but it's way too little. Otherwise they use (super)clipping, AFAIK because is more efficient than part throttle harvesting.
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Did Leclerc stay with the Carbon Industrie brakes for today?

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humm quali looks tough, hope sharl can get 2nd row at least [-o<

edit:-checking insightshub, russell despite making slight correction/error in t3 but the time they get to t4 he is still 10kph ahead of charles.. freaking hell same story every end of stright and at the very end of lap ferrari loose all the power and is down by 16kph...
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Fakepivot wrote:
13 Jun 2026, 13:36
humm quali looks tough, hope sharl can get 2nd row at least [-o<
There will be 4 Mercedes engines in front of him and potentially a RB one if they sort their car

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deadhead wrote:
13 Jun 2026, 14:20
There will be 4 Mercedes engines in front of him and potentially a RB one if they sort their car
sure every team will ahead of ferrari if they short out there car, just like that guy predicting audi to be ahead of ferrari any day now...

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Oh dear, Charles

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Charles LeCrash.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
12 Jun 2026, 23:33
Charles is back to prove himself again that he is the number one in the team. That done though, it won't look so amazing because I predict we will finish 5th and 6th!
Number one crasher in the team for sure.

Three times damaging the car in two races.

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no words.. man just give me a straightforward weekend :cry: