2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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Artur Craft wrote:
13 Jun 2026, 18:08
It seems FP1 missing meant next to nothing. Norris and Hulk were quicker than their team mates the whole weekend, despite missing FP1.
Depends on the driver, Lewis likes to get out on the track and experiment with the car to fine tune his setup. So for sure he was hindered by some amount, but every driver was hindered to some extent because of the track temp and the tires not lasting long at all.
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venkyhere wrote:
13 Jun 2026, 20:31
Nice.
LeClerc v Hamilton fan wars.
Didn't expect it to be any different.
Thanks guys.
Just ignore this noise like i do.

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Prediction: Leclerc finishes ahead of Lewis tomorrow 8)

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LM10 wrote:
13 Jun 2026, 21:09
Wow, what mixed feelings I have about this qualifying!

Very positive about the amazing job the team has done, once again showing how strong that car is and especially making the mega upgrade work. Being that fast on this track is, as we know, a really good sign.

Hamilton keeps getting better and more comfortable with the car. Should have even taken pole.

As for Leclerc’s crash… this time, I’m afraid it was all on him. He pushed a little bit too much there. Really frustrating…

It was Ferrari’s pole to lose - with such a big power deficit. Let that sink in. Bravissimo, team!
Yea the fact that the car hit the highest top speed of any car today says a lot about the upgrades they brought, cant wait till they have the upgraded engine, which hopefully if reports are true could be the next race coming

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I believe the updates have indeed brought considerable performance improvement. A good portion of the straight-line speed deficit has been improved, and basically what remains is the PU deficit that separates Ferrari from having a car to directly compete with Mercedes.

Tomorrow we'll see what the race pace and tire degradation will be like to see if there's still any hope for this season, at least to be able to fight for wins.

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edu2703 wrote:
13 Jun 2026, 22:05
I believe the update has indeed brought considerable performance improvement. A good portion of the straight-line speed deficit has been improved, and basically what remains is the PU deficit that separates Ferrari from having a car to directly compete with Mercedes.

Tomorrow we'll see what the race pace and tire degradation will be like to see if there's still any hope for this season, at least to be able to fight for wins.
It does seem like it. I do wonder if having a car with good high speed corner performance also helps more here than elsewhere. Still, if the supposed Austria PU update can really halve the horsepower gap, you have to think it could be game on (albeit, you could argue that Mercedes’ development programme is out of step - ie one big package so far vs two for Ferrari - and they have another aero upgrade to come)

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Discrete aero changes isn't going to change straight line performance like that. They simply deployed a bit more on the straight and deployed slightly less elsewhere. Anyways, the power deficit is overstated. With the smaller turbo and exhaust flap they are giving up some peak power but gaining time elsewhere on the lap. So long as those concepts remain you can expect a peak power deficit to be there, doesn't mean they will lose time over the entire lap though.

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Badger wrote:
13 Jun 2026, 21:19
Prediction: Leclerc finishes ahead of Lewis tomorrow 8)
Sure he should :mrgreen: At least crashing under pressure is more predictable now on bet. Gotta luv 3rd podium in a row tomorrow. Popcorns
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Artur Craft wrote:
13 Jun 2026, 19:04
rifrafs2kees wrote:
13 Jun 2026, 18:30

Dude, it's not about Hamilton. Leclerc isn't doing well!!!!.
Hamilton is doing fine, better than before, obviously. If that is the reason for Leclerc´s mistakes, then I can´t know for sure but further GPs will give better understanding about that.
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13 Jun 2026, 18:39


This is overlooked to the extend you start to wonder if it is deliberate :roll:
:?:

What I said is very objective and clear. People said Bottas was one of the best drivers ever over one lap to support narratives about Hamilton. Likewise, Perez was said to be mega slow to support narratives about Verstappen. Now we´re seeing Perez being speculated to go to a better team than Cadilac while Bottas is on the verge of ending his F1 carreer because he is just too slow. Maybe you have not been following what is being said on the media about Caddie drivers....

I know Perez and Bottas are off topic here but it does make one think that(both) Ferrari´s drivers might not be as good as Mercedes´, Red Bull´s and Mclaren´s, not just lacking on the engine side.(just my impression anyway)
So by some spooky correlations between Perez and Bottas it turns into Lewis isn't all that, Leclerc was always medicore and Max is really the king of all drivers! Wow.. How far have we gone off topic! :?
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Badger wrote:
13 Jun 2026, 22:51
Discrete aero changes isn't going to change straight line performance like that. They simply deployed a bit more on the straight and deployed slightly less elsewhere. Anyways, the power deficit is overstated. With the smaller turbo and exhaust flap they are giving up some peak power but gaining time elsewhere on the lap. So long as those concepts remain you can expect a peak power deficit to be there, doesn't mean they will lose time over the entire lap though.
Well, it’s knock on effects. For example, if you can carry more speed through a corner, you need less deployment coming out; if you get better under floor downforce, you need less wing and so you also have less drag/more speed. So it is related.

I wonder if there’ll be conspiracy theories that, having got ADUO, they’ve turned the engine up.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 00:51
So by some spooky correlations between Perez and Bottas it turns into Lewis isn't all that, Leclerc was always medicore and Max is really the king of all drivers! Wow.. How far have we gone off topic! :?
Transitive comparison is a fool's errand; comparing teammates directly can be hard enough! Good drivers can have bad seasons, or fall off sharply for whatever reason, without invalidating their (or their teammate's) best work. Bottas was good, Perez is good, Lewis is great, Charles can be great.

It's fantastic to see Lewis back close to his best, but that doesn't erase how much he struggled with the previous regs. I thought he was washed and am very glad to be proven wrong! Charles appears to be having similar struggles with these regs and hasn't had the validation, but with Fred's Ferrari looking very strong he should have ample opportunity to prove himself in the years to come.

At least the "LH = Merc-merchant" crowd can pipe down.