2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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AnotherAlex wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:01
Luscion wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 18:54
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Thanks Luscion.

I don't suppose you have one for Leclerc and Verstappen (perhaps with Norris or Piastri for good measure)? :wink:
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woocasz wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:01
Badger wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 18:45
AnotherAlex wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 18:41

Definitely.
With one lap older hards to the mediums Verstappen put on under the VSC, Leclerc was all over him, with only Hamilton faster than them. About 5 laps before his retirement, when Verstappen's medium might have been expected to fade, Leclerc dropped back to Piastri's pace and was losing around a second a lap, so clearly the mechanical issue was there for a number of laps before his retirement.
Zero indication of a mechanical issue from his team radio before the power steering failed. Let's not assert such things without evidence.

Leclerc never got within one second of Verstappen and then started falling back. He clearly did not have the pace of Hamilton today. With that many laps to go the hard was the right tyre.
Did you watch the race at all?
from lap 42 after the VSC, he was in the 1-2s range behind Max (on new medium tyres) for 10 laps, when he lost the power steering he fell off like a stone
His power steering failed on lap 62 and by then he was 8 seconds behind Verstappen.

Charles' pace in the final stint was really poor before his failure.

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Badger wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:12
woocasz wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:01
Badger wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 18:45

Zero indication of a mechanical issue from his team radio before the power steering failed. Let's not assert such things without evidence.

Leclerc never got within one second of Verstappen and then started falling back. He clearly did not have the pace of Hamilton today. With that many laps to go the hard was the right tyre.
Did you watch the race at all?
from lap 42 after the VSC, he was in the 1-2s range behind Max (on new medium tyres) for 10 laps, when he lost the power steering he fell off like a stone
His power steering failed on lap 62 and by then he was 8 seconds behind Verstappen.

Charles' pace in the final stint was really poor before his failure.
so, from lap 52 to lap 62 Charles lost 8s (0,8s per lap)
during this 10 laps what happend? he forgot how to drive ?
dont be disrespectful and stop trolling.

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woocasz wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:21
Badger wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:12
woocasz wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:01


Did you watch the race at all?
from lap 42 after the VSC, he was in the 1-2s range behind Max (on new medium tyres) for 10 laps, when he lost the power steering he fell off like a stone
His power steering failed on lap 62 and by then he was 8 seconds behind Verstappen.

Charles' pace in the final stint was really poor before his failure.
so, from lap 52 to lap 62 Charles lost 8s (0,8s per lap)
during this 10 laps what happend? he forgot how to drive ?
dont be disrespectful and stop trolling.
Calm down I am simply stating facts. Charles lost the tyres, he came on the radio around lap 50 complaining about the hards. No mention of any mechanical issues before the failure. His pace was nowhere compared to Lewis today.

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one thing i notice, on friday, they had lot more cooling outlets, but since saturday they went back to regular engine cover with very little cooling, and so far ferrari have not had any engine related issue, and according to that article someone posted there engine runs hot? and yet we have very litter cooling? how does that work, how are they able to be reliable ?

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AnotherAlex wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:01
I don't suppose you have one for Leclerc and Verstappen (perhaps with Norris or Piastri for good measure)? :wink:
Just an fyi you can compare anyone you want on this website. several websites like this exist now, but this is the one I use.
https://www.gp-tempo.com/
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Fakepivot wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:48
one thing i notice, on friday, they had lot more cooling outlets, but since saturday they went back to regular engine cover with very little cooling, and so far ferrari have not had any engine related issue, and according to that article someone posted there engine runs hot? and yet we have very litter cooling? how does that work, how are they able to be reliable ?
Maybe raceday was a little cooler than expected? Word was the hards would not be raceable due to heat, yet several teams used them successfully.

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Fakepivot wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:48
one thing i notice, on friday, they had lot more cooling outlets, but since saturday they went back to regular engine cover with very little cooling, and so far ferrari have not had any engine related issue, and according to that article someone posted there engine runs hot? and yet we have very litter cooling? how does that work, how are they able to be reliable ?
Supposedly they designed the engine to run that way. If it turns out to be a winning design, it will be hard to duplicate as well as it an entire car philosophy!
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Badger wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:42
woocasz wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:21
Badger wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:12

His power steering failed on lap 62 and by then he was 8 seconds behind Verstappen.

Charles' pace in the final stint was really poor before his failure.
so, from lap 52 to lap 62 Charles lost 8s (0,8s per lap)
during this 10 laps what happend? he forgot how to drive ?
dont be disrespectful and stop trolling.
Calm down I am simply stating facts. Charles lost the tyres, he came on the radio around lap 50 complaining about the hards. No mention of any mechanical issues before the failure. His pace was nowhere compared to Lewis today.
I think as others said, it’s quite likely he was slowly losing hydraulic pressure (he may not have realised it and was thinking it was tyres). In the first two stints, he was very strong and seemed to have the kind of pace in clear air that Lewis showed at the end.

At the end of the day, it was a great win from Lewis and a great sign that the development is working. All indications are that we’ll see a PU update in Austria which is mega if true - power is important there but so is high speed cornering performance, and this looked very strong here. My only word of caution is whether the high degradation could have skewed the picture in our favour, but no definitive sign that’s the case, just wondering since the car was better then expected.

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Badger wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:42
woocasz wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:21
Badger wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:12

His power steering failed on lap 62 and by then he was 8 seconds behind Verstappen.

Charles' pace in the final stint was really poor before his failure.
so, from lap 52 to lap 62 Charles lost 8s (0,8s per lap)
during this 10 laps what happend? he forgot how to drive ?
dont be disrespectful and stop trolling.
Calm down I am simply stating facts. Charles lost the tyres, he came on the radio around lap 50 complaining about the hards. No mention of any mechanical issues before the failure. His pace was nowhere compared to Lewis today.
The first reports of a fault in Charles's car are beginning to appear.
"Power steering, BBW and shifting were problems reported in the final stint. Pink fluid dripping from underneath the car. Hydraulic failure"

pace wise:
stint 1: LEC: 1:23.8 average
HAM: 1:23.2
That’s actually quite normal when driving behind a much slower Oscar.

stint 2: LEC: 1:23.7
HAM: 1:23.9

Charles quicker than Hamilton, so you are ragebaiting at this point.

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f1316 wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:58
My only word of caution is whether the high degradation could have skewed the picture in our favour, but no definitive sign that’s the case, just wondering since the car was better then expected.
It could be just as bad in Austria, as Pirelli has designated the C3, C4, & C5 For Austria. A lot is going to depend on what the weather is like, Austria could be another high degradation high attrition race.
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woocasz wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 20:15
Badger wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:42
woocasz wrote:
14 Jun 2026, 19:21


so, from lap 52 to lap 62 Charles lost 8s (0,8s per lap)
during this 10 laps what happend? he forgot how to drive ?
dont be disrespectful and stop trolling.
Calm down I am simply stating facts. Charles lost the tyres, he came on the radio around lap 50 complaining about the hards. No mention of any mechanical issues before the failure. His pace was nowhere compared to Lewis today.
The first reports of a fault in Charles's car are beginning to appear.
"Power steering, BBW and shifting were problems reported in the final stint. Pink fluid dripping from underneath the car. Hydraulic failure"
I wouldn't classify that as a "report" seeing as it came from an anonymous X user and not a journalist, which I suspect is why you didn't post the source in your comment.

There was no mention of any mechanical issues before the DNF in the final stint, I've watched the onboard entirely. What Leclerc was complaining about were his tyres. Saying he had no front grip and asking if he could pit again with Piastri behind him. Then once the failure happens on lap 62 he says that the power steering and BBW have gone. If this really was a progressive hydraulic failure the symptoms would have been obvious for Leclerc for several laps before, as in the steering getting progressively heavier and shifts getting worse. But that's not what happened from the onboard.

For Leclerc I think this was just a really bad weekend. First the crash in quali, then lacking race pace and tyre management to Lewis, and to put the cherry on top a mechanical DNF.

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Leclerc is an excellent driver, will be back on the front foot at the next race and Ferrari will be the stronger for it. He's gone through a bad patch (not least of luck) but he's experienced such things before and come out stronger on the other side. Of course he is pushing and taking risks. Give him a car that he doesn't have to constantly drive on the ragged edge in order to sniff a podium and we'll get a much more accurate (and, I think, impressive) view of him as a driver.

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Get in there Lewis! What an utterly deserved first race win (not counting the sprint race in China last year)!

Ferrari has done a superb job and once again shown that the SF-26 is the real deal. Even the latest doubters must be convinced by now. What a masterpiece of a car. It can only get better with the PU upgrades, so fingers crossed everything works out fine.

As for Leclerc, it was a weekend to forget and I hope he does so as soon as possible. We need him at the top of his game fighting in this championship which is shaping up to get more and more interesting for Ferrari.
Skill-wise Leclerc does not need to prove anything as he’s a mega driver. Mentally, though, he has never been in a position to prove that he’s ready for a proper title fight right to the end. He seems to care far too much about what others think of him and is often too hard to himself saying things like “I’m ashamed” or “I’m stupid”. He needs to free his mind.
I’m sure Leclerc is capable of all that and I believe sooner or later he’ll be a champion with Ferrari.
Sempre Forza Ferrari

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Super drive by Hamilton; been a long time coming.

On the pace front, the trend in the races has been that Leclerc has the edge in earlier stints when the cars are heavier. Hamilton comes on song as the fuel is burned off.
There was a similar trend when Hamilton drove alongside Button.

Summary is Leclerc will be fine. It would be a statement if Ferrari can pick up the contructor's and/or WDC; we will need both drivers plus continued Merc. reliability gremlins to achieve one or both. Looking forward to a Leclerc bounce back next week.