You should also take into consideration a huge difference in 'conditions' experienced between both Mercedes drivers. George drove in clean air almost the entire race (except when he had to pass cars for a few laps after every pitstop), whilst Kimi drove in dirty air almost fully, until his PU went kaput. On a high temp high deg track, Kimi still matched the race pace of Russel and even overtook on merit with no tyre offset. Unlike 'low grip' tracks like Miami which Russel claimed 'didn't suit' him, this is one of the highest grip tracks on the calender. Just think of the variety of tracks we have seen from Australia to Barcelona - Kimi has either matched Russel's pace or exceeded Russel's pace. Its a simple fact that hints at a 'talen gap' between the two of them.avantman wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 14:20I’ve studdied some lap time data and I’m now convinced Russell could not switch hard tires on properly. They simply were not working properly ever for him during the race. Is it a function of his driving style or setup I don’t know, but I’m sure this is what it was. Deg alone wasnt the problem, he wasn't fast from the get go putting brand new hard on, whereas on first stint on medium he was much faster than Kimi and didn't experience more deg than him. The hard tires not were not in their operational window, which made him slide more which made the deg on hard even worse. Lets wait until the Mercedes debrief but I expect to hear this explanation.
This race was basically exhibit #245 of why George has always been mid when it comes to race pace.venkyhere wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 15:02You should also take into consideration a huge difference in 'conditions' experienced between both Mercedes drivers. George drove in clean air almost the entire race (except when he had to pass cars for a few laps after every pitstop), whilst Kimi drove in dirty air almost fully, until his PU went kaput. On a high temp high deg track, Kimi still matched the race pace of Russel and even overtook on merit with no tyre offset. Unlike 'low grip' tracks like Miami which Russel claimed 'didn't suit' him, this is one of the highest grip tracks on the calender. Just think of the variety of tracks we have seen from Australia to Barcelona - Kimi has either matched Russel's pace or exceeded Russel's pace. Its a simple fact that hints at a 'talen gap' between the two of them.avantman wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 14:20I’ve studdied some lap time data and I’m now convinced Russell could not switch hard tires on properly. They simply were not working properly ever for him during the race. Is it a function of his driving style or setup I don’t know, but I’m sure this is what it was. Deg alone wasnt the problem, he wasn't fast from the get go putting brand new hard on, whereas on first stint on medium he was much faster than Kimi and didn't experience more deg than him. The hard tires not were not in their operational window, which made him slide more which made the deg on hard even worse. Lets wait until the Mercedes debrief but I expect to hear this explanation.
It will certainly be compounded if its Hamilton hunting for wins consistently. Mercedes has all the experience in the world of it from the other side of the fence. The problem then will be will Russell play ball, and can Kimi withstand the pressure?Tonino wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 15:35This race was basically exhibit #245 of why George has always been mid when it comes to race pace.venkyhere wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 15:02You should also take into consideration a huge difference in 'conditions' experienced between both Mercedes drivers. George drove in clean air almost the entire race (except when he had to pass cars for a few laps after every pitstop), whilst Kimi drove in dirty air almost fully, until his PU went kaput. On a high temp high deg track, Kimi still matched the race pace of Russel and even overtook on merit with no tyre offset. Unlike 'low grip' tracks like Miami which Russel claimed 'didn't suit' him, this is one of the highest grip tracks on the calender. Just think of the variety of tracks we have seen from Australia to Barcelona - Kimi has either matched Russel's pace or exceeded Russel's pace. Its a simple fact that hints at a 'talen gap' between the two of them.avantman wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 14:20I’ve studdied some lap time data and I’m now convinced Russell could not switch hard tires on properly. They simply were not working properly ever for him during the race. Is it a function of his driving style or setup I don’t know, but I’m sure this is what it was. Deg alone wasnt the problem, he wasn't fast from the get go putting brand new hard on, whereas on first stint on medium he was much faster than Kimi and didn't experience more deg than him. The hard tires not were not in their operational window, which made him slide more which made the deg on hard even worse. Lets wait until the Mercedes debrief but I expect to hear this explanation.
I rewatched the whole thing from Kimi's onboard last night and it was painful to watch. Kimi clearly had more pace but spent half the race stuck behind George, who was lapping like he was carrying a caravan. That second stint was an embarrassment. So much time thrown away for absolutely no reason. Team completely bottled that one.
The only positive is that I can't see Toto tolerating this for much longer. He's not going to sacrifice a title challenge to protect one driver's ego. Give it another race or two. If Kimi keeps showing this kind of race pace advantage over George, the team is going to have to stop pretending they're equals and start making the obvious calls.
Don't think he has any leverage whatsoever if it gets to that point. If the team decides Kimi is their best shot at a championship, George either plays ball or he doesn't. Mercedes aren't going to sacrifice a title campaign just to keep him happy. If he has a problem with it, there are other teams out there he can go to, and I doubt anyone at Mercedes would lose much sleep over it.SiLo wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 15:48It will certainly be compounded if its Hamilton hunting for wins consistently. Mercedes has all the experience in the world of it from the other side of the fence. The problem then will be will Russell play ball, and can Kimi withstand the pressure?Tonino wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 15:35This race was basically exhibit #245 of why George has always been mid when it comes to race pace.venkyhere wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 15:02
You should also take into consideration a huge difference in 'conditions' experienced between both Mercedes drivers. George drove in clean air almost the entire race (except when he had to pass cars for a few laps after every pitstop), whilst Kimi drove in dirty air almost fully, until his PU went kaput. On a high temp high deg track, Kimi still matched the race pace of Russel and even overtook on merit with no tyre offset. Unlike 'low grip' tracks like Miami which Russel claimed 'didn't suit' him, this is one of the highest grip tracks on the calender. Just think of the variety of tracks we have seen from Australia to Barcelona - Kimi has either matched Russel's pace or exceeded Russel's pace. Its a simple fact that hints at a 'talen gap' between the two of them.
I rewatched the whole thing from Kimi's onboard last night and it was painful to watch. Kimi clearly had more pace but spent half the race stuck behind George, who was lapping like he was carrying a caravan. That second stint was an embarrassment. So much time thrown away for absolutely no reason. Team completely bottled that one.
The only positive is that I can't see Toto tolerating this for much longer. He's not going to sacrifice a title challenge to protect one driver's ego. Give it another race or two. If Kimi keeps showing this kind of race pace advantage over George, the team is going to have to stop pretending they're equals and start making the obvious calls.
That doesn't explain Kimi’s lack of pace on medium. He wasn't even directly behind Hamilton, but rather 2s adrift. He was just slow. I’m not convinced yet drivers’ pace in these current anti-driving cars can be considered ad reliable metrics of talent. This is quite sad actually all these incredible drivers have to spend best years of their careers driving these modern sh*tboxes - batteries on wheels.venkyhere wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 15:02You should also take into consideration a huge difference in 'conditions' experienced between both Mercedes drivers. George drove in clean air almost the entire race (except when he had to pass cars for a few laps after every pitstop), whilst Kimi drove in dirty air almost fully, until his PU went kaput. On a high temp high deg track, Kimi still matched the race pace of Russel and even overtook on merit with no tyre offset. Unlike 'low grip' tracks like Miami which Russel claimed 'didn't suit' him, this is one of the highest grip tracks on the calender. Just think of the variety of tracks we have seen from Australia to Barcelona - Kimi has either matched Russel's pace or exceeded Russel's pace. Its a simple fact that hints at a 'talen gap' between the two of them.avantman wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 14:20I’ve studdied some lap time data and I’m now convinced Russell could not switch hard tires on properly. They simply were not working properly ever for him during the race. Is it a function of his driving style or setup I don’t know, but I’m sure this is what it was. Deg alone wasnt the problem, he wasn't fast from the get go putting brand new hard on, whereas on first stint on medium he was much faster than Kimi and didn't experience more deg than him. The hard tires not were not in their operational window, which made him slide more which made the deg on hard even worse. Lets wait until the Mercedes debrief but I expect to hear this explanation.