Aston Martin AMR26

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Rasoose wrote:
09 Jun 2026, 02:30
On a positive note, they haven't been retiring due to full on gearbox failures up to this point, which is better than I expected at the beginning of the year.

I do wonder though, how much they might be limiting their regen or deployment due to (presumptive) fragility of the gearbox. If, and it's a big *if*, that's not a limiting factor and it's just down to grip or ES/MGU-K temps, etc. then we could hope for further gains in the short term as they iron out the software and calibration (both gearbox + PU) rather than wait for redesigned gearbox internals.

Some of the comments made by Mike Krack would seem to indicate that their gearbox issues will require some mechanical redesigns. It's possible I read too much into that, or perhaps part of of the rumored 'engine mount redesign' will be how the gearbox mounts to the ICE.
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diffuser wrote:
09 Jun 2026, 03:35
Rasoose wrote:
09 Jun 2026, 02:30
On a positive note, they haven't been retiring due to full on gearbox failures up to this point, which is better than I expected at the beginning of the year.

I do wonder though, how much they might be limiting their regen or deployment due to (presumptive) fragility of the gearbox. If, and it's a big *if*, that's not a limiting factor and it's just down to grip or ES/MGU-K temps, etc. then we could hope for further gains in the short term as they iron out the software and calibration (both gearbox + PU) rather than wait for redesigned gearbox internals.

Some of the comments made by Mike Krack would seem to indicate that their gearbox issues will require some mechanical redesigns. It's possible I read too much into that, or perhaps part of of the rumored 'engine mount redesign' will be how the gearbox mounts to the ICE.
You need to break it to know how to make it better.
While generally true, with heavily instrumented equipments not necessarily true. And I suspect that in F1 they shouldn't be relying just in empirical destruction. :lol:

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Interesting mounts.

Is that a torsional damper / hinge on the front of the battery?
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
11 Jun 2026, 13:57
Interesting mounts.

Is that a torsional damper / hinge on the front of the battery?
I'd dare to say that it looks like it's just a coolant collector.

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diffuser wrote:
12 Jun 2026, 14:33
Looks tge same?
Exhaust blocker :)
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Owen.C93 wrote:
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diffuser wrote:
12 Jun 2026, 14:33
Looks tge same?
Exhaust blocker :)
Oh, that must be a ICE test for when they bring the true deflector?

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diffuser wrote:
12 Jun 2026, 15:38
Owen.C93 wrote:
12 Jun 2026, 14:35
diffuser wrote:
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Looks tge same?
Exhaust blocker :)
Oh, that must be a ICE test for when they bring the true deflector?
Looks like it

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This is very interesting

✅ Shintaro Orihara ADMITS that in Monaco (and on all circuits) the engine generates many problems in all types of corners (although the gearbox does too)

"One of the challenges is to prevent the rear wheels from locking when the driver downshifts during braking. This requires control from the gearbox, and the power unit must correctly supply the engine torque needed for the engine speed to follow the downshift and avoid wheel lockup."

The difficulty lies in the fact that the 2026 model's power unit will use a method of energy generation called partial regeneration more frequently than before.

"When entering a corner, even with the throttle released, the engine generates power almost to the maximum (due to MGU-K braking). If the engine torque fluctuates even slightly, the driver will notice the rear deviating inward during the corner. In Monaco, there's no choice but to drive with a safety margin, so the key is how to stabilize it and enter the corner with the same engine torque, and that's what we're trying to achieve."

This partial regeneration also occurs during acceleration. The internal combustion engine must generate stable engine torque to counteract the braking force of the MGU-K; otherwise, the driver cannot safely press the accelerator. The main cause of this lies in the internal combustion engine's lack of power and its still immature combustion settings.

"Unstable engine torque means unstable combustion. The problem was that the combustion in our internal combustion engine was unstable, causing inconsistent engine torque on each occasion. Up to the Miami GP, we were still looking for a way to solve it, but after the Miami GP, we found a solution that would improve things, and we've been progressively tuning in that direction, so the number of issues we need to resolve has decreased. It has decreased, but we still haven't been able to eliminate them completely, and the big difference is that while on other circuits it's acceptable to stay within this range, in Monaco a much higher level is required (which has made the problems more evident)."

https://x.com/Nachez98/status/2068637864783446210

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Newey interview with some details about the B-spec package: https://www.astonmartinf1.com/en-GB/new ... ee-you-now
"We're making big strides in our in‑house facilities and production capabilities. You won't see all the gains immediately, but they'll be visible on the updated car: many more components are now produced in‑house. The gearbox casing is manufactured here, the floor patterns and floors themselves are made here, and a lot of parts that were previously outsourced have come back in-house.
Let's get back to the car. The team has been working on a major upgrade. When are we going to see it?

"We plan to introduce our upgrade in Hungary on both cars."

Structurally, how big a change is this upgrade? Are we talking new car or heavy evolution?

"The main structural elements remain the same – the chassis and gearbox architecture don't fundamentally change – but we've taken weight out of both, which required re-homologating and crash testing the forward chassis.

"The front suspension is unchanged. The rear suspension is slightly revised. We've developed a new nose and substantially revised aerodynamic surfaces. So, while the core structure is similar, it's a big aerodynamic package coupled with significant weight reduction. The target is to get very close to the weight limit."

When you run the numbers, how big a step does it look?

"We're predicting a large step, but I'm reluctant to put specific numbers out there because our simulation tools aren't yet as sophisticated or well correlated as they need to be.

"Historically, at this team, there hasn't been enough investment in engineering simulation tools – not just project management systems, but the core physics tools themselves. We're putting that investment in now, but you don't rewrite and validate those tools overnight. Correlating them properly with the real car takes time.

"At the moment, they're improving, but the real gains from that work will come later in the year."