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Hi everyone. This is my first time posting here, and I have a question that's been confusing me.

In one Motorsport article, Ferrari's exhaust solution is called FTM (Flick Tail Mode). In another Motorsport article, it says Ferrari will drop the STM system and run without Flick Tail Mode.

Are STM and FTM two different systems, or is STM just a typo?

https://lat.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... /10798495/ FTM
https://lat.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... /10838067/ STM

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Ferrari is expected to introduce a more aggressive “Macarena” wing, potentially worth up to 11 km/h more top speed on Spa’s long straights.

via Motorsport IT

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The biggest change for me will be the removal of FTM for Spa. This alone will free the motor. They tested without it in Austria and they gathered the data needed. A better Macarena wing is the icing on the cake since they will go in full low downforce hoping to mitigate their engine deficit to the MB's. Our drivers are not slouches and they can cope with a handy car.

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woocasz wrote:
11 Jul 2026, 20:17
Ferrari is expected to introduce a more aggressive “Macarena” wing, potentially worth up to 11 km/h more top speed on Spa’s long straights.

via Motorsport IT
11kph seems extremely unlikely, the numbers just don't add up

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Even 5 kph sounds unlikely

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johnnycesup wrote:
11 Jul 2026, 20:56
woocasz wrote:
11 Jul 2026, 20:17
Ferrari is expected to introduce a more aggressive “Macarena” wing, potentially worth up to 11 km/h more top speed on Spa’s long straights.

via Motorsport IT
11kph seems extremely unlikely, the numbers just don't add up
11 kph above a traditional opening is what I think they mean. That seems unlikely, but not as astonishingly over the top as 11 kph above the normal macarena.

The current macarena wing is said to be worth somewhere between 6 and 8 kph. Pushing that to 11 with a low downforce spec that sacrifices some downforce in order to reduce tip vortices doesn't seem entirely impossible, although I don't actually think it will end up being worth 11 km/h.

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bananapeel23 wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 17:57
johnnycesup wrote:
11 Jul 2026, 20:56
woocasz wrote:
11 Jul 2026, 20:17
Ferrari is expected to introduce a more aggressive “Macarena” wing, potentially worth up to 11 km/h more top speed on Spa’s long straights.

via Motorsport IT
11kph seems extremely unlikely, the numbers just don't add up
11 kph above a traditional opening is what I think they mean. That seems unlikely, but not as astonishingly over the top as 11 kph above the normal macarena.

The current macarena wing is said to be worth somewhere between 6 and 8 kph. Pushing that to 11 with a low downforce spec that sacrifices some downforce in order to reduce tip vortices doesn't seem entirely impossible, although I don't actually think it will end up being worth 11 km/h.
IMO 6 and 8 kph compared to a regular opening is also insane, if it was that much every team would already have one out. A lot more time and money was spent on the previous regs with flexible wings that don't have that big of an impact.

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aminou-46 wrote:
11 Jul 2026, 19:11
Hi everyone. This is my first time posting here, and I have a question that's been confusing me.

In one Motorsport article, Ferrari's exhaust solution is called FTM (Flick Tail Mode). In another Motorsport article, it says Ferrari will drop the STM system and run without Flick Tail Mode.

Are STM and FTM two different systems, or is STM just a typo?

https://lat.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... /10798495/ FTM
https://lat.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... /10838067/ STM
Almost certainly typo.

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johnnycesup wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 18:21
bananapeel23 wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 17:57
johnnycesup wrote:
11 Jul 2026, 20:56


11kph seems extremely unlikely, the numbers just don't add up
11 kph above a traditional opening is what I think they mean. That seems unlikely, but not as astonishingly over the top as 11 kph above the normal macarena.

The current macarena wing is said to be worth somewhere between 6 and 8 kph. Pushing that to 11 with a low downforce spec that sacrifices some downforce in order to reduce tip vortices doesn't seem entirely impossible, although I don't actually think it will end up being worth 11 km/h.
IMO 6 and 8 kph compared to a regular opening is also insane, if it was that much every team would already have one out. A lot more time and money was spent on the previous regs with flexible wings that don't have that big of an impact.
McLaren’s mini-DRS was worth 3-5 kph. I don’t think that 6-8 kph is insane.
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11kph compared to what? This is not enough information simply.
For example, it can be that the wing is now much steeper and stronger, so when opening, compared to that, will result in a greater drop of drag.
There are just too many false and misunderstood "info" out there.
But we will probably know when we see the wing and more importantly the telemetry data.

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LM10 wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 22:11
johnnycesup wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 18:21
bananapeel23 wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 17:57


11 kph above a traditional opening is what I think they mean. That seems unlikely, but not as astonishingly over the top as 11 kph above the normal macarena.

The current macarena wing is said to be worth somewhere between 6 and 8 kph. Pushing that to 11 with a low downforce spec that sacrifices some downforce in order to reduce tip vortices doesn't seem entirely impossible, although I don't actually think it will end up being worth 11 km/h.
IMO 6 and 8 kph compared to a regular opening is also insane, if it was that much every team would already have one out. A lot more time and money was spent on the previous regs with flexible wings that don't have that big of an impact.
McLaren’s mini-DRS was worth 3-5 kph. I don’t think that 6-8 kph is insane.
Even if the Mclaren number is true, it was acting on a wing on the high angle of attack position (meaning, a whole lot of drag). Those reports claim that the macarena wing is 6-8 kph better than a wing already in low angle of attack mode. Is there so much drag to be shed by the wing in that configuration?

The only thing I can think of is that maybe the lift caused by the macarena can have a drag reducing effect on the rest of the car, but even then that seems a bit much.

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johnnycesup wrote:
13 Jul 2026, 03:23
LM10 wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 22:11
johnnycesup wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 18:21


IMO 6 and 8 kph compared to a regular opening is also insane, if it was that much every team would already have one out. A lot more time and money was spent on the previous regs with flexible wings that don't have that big of an impact.
McLaren’s mini-DRS was worth 3-5 kph. I don’t think that 6-8 kph is insane.
Even if the Mclaren number is true, it was acting on a wing on the high angle of attack position (meaning, a whole lot of drag). Those reports claim that the macarena wing is 6-8 kph better than a wing already in low angle of attack mode. Is there so much drag to be shed by the wing in that configuration?

The only thing I can think of is that maybe the lift caused by the macarena can have a drag reducing effect on the rest of the car, but even then that seems a bit much.
My inference is that this (bold) is the ONLY purpose of a macarena opening rather than a traditional DRS style opening. A greater mass flow & straighter flow of slot gap air, increasing the power of the wake that suppresses diffuser exit (depowering/stalling) , thereby reducing overall pressure drag, reducing overall rolling resistance from rear tyres => aiding higher top speed than with a traditional DRS wing.
Of course, it's conjecture, but it seems the most plausible explanation, other than what Sky sports commentators propose 'look at that gap, that is HUGE so must mean lower drag' where they think the standalone Cd of the rear wing is lower in macarena config than DRS config.

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Was watching one of peter windsor podcast interview with Mark Slade, he claimed merc chassis is superior to ferrari, is tht right?

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Fakepivot wrote:
13 Jul 2026, 11:15
Was watching one of peter windsor podcast interview with Mark Slade, he claimed merc chassis is superior to ferrari, is tht right?
Peter Windsor is among the worst pundits. Do not believe anything to him.
Also, maybe even Mercedes does not the answer to this entirely...

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Fakepivot wrote:
13 Jul 2026, 11:15
Was watching one of peter windsor podcast interview with Mark Slade, he claimed merc chassis is superior to ferrari, is tht right?
Wishful thinking of a Mercedes fan.
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