2026 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 17 - 19

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Does anyone agree with this analysis? I feel like there way too little difference in the corners to make up the massive time loss on the straights. Same thing happened to Piastri and was happening to Leclerc in practice too, I think.

Pundits and f1 commentators are so quick to pin performance down on the drivers when we have so many deployment issues/abnormalities like this throughout the season, leading to massive time losses.

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euv2 wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 09:40


Does anyone agree with this analysis? I feel like there way too little difference in the corners to make up the massive time loss on the straights. Same thing happened to Piastri and was happening to Leclerc in practice too, I think.

Pundits and f1 commentators are so quick to pin performance down on the drivers when we have so many deployment issues/abnormalities like this throughout the season, leading to massive time losses.
Yes ..... IF ..... those analysis are backed up by hard data, that's verified, then its reasonable discussion.

Most importantly though, this whole scenario was widely predicted, and often dismissed, in lead up to this rules set. It's truly come home to roost as part of a pathetically inadequate control system to fulfill what !

The discussion, inevitable, media figures being squashed into positive distribution, who'd have thought it.

The warnings were loud, its here now, shouldn't be part of racing at this level.

There's plenty of individual interest avenue to discuss algorithm, it shouldn't have come to this in F1.

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Sevach wrote:
18 Jul 2026, 19:55
That's a lot of clipping, doesn't really look on edge anywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dytOOn0crB8
It is an abomination to the sport what is happening. They have the engine harvesting and prepping the corners for the drivers in the name of energy “recovery”. Whatever man. High speed corners are now just curved straights. Removal of ways to see the deployment only renders the abysmal fallacy they are attempting to hide. Pathetic. ](*,)
Watching F1 since 1986.

woocasz
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that slipstream from Hadjar was massive!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XE7-yF2oys

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Chuckjr wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 10:19
Sevach wrote:
18 Jul 2026, 19:55
That's a lot of clipping, doesn't really look on edge anywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dytOOn0crB8
It is an abomination to the sport what is happening. They have the engine harvesting and prepping the corners for the drivers in the name of energy “recovery”. Whatever man. High speed corners are now just curved straights. Removal of ways to see the deployment only renders the abysmal fallacy they are attempting to hide. Pathetic. ](*,)

Drivers agree. Total Sh*tshow.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1101387/1 ... 20at%20Spa

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Farnborough wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 09:51
euv2 wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 09:40


Does anyone agree with this analysis? I feel like there way too little difference in the corners to make up the massive time loss on the straights. Same thing happened to Piastri and was happening to Leclerc in practice too, I think.

Pundits and f1 commentators are so quick to pin performance down on the drivers when we have so many deployment issues/abnormalities like this throughout the season, leading to massive time losses.
Yes ..... IF ..... those analysis are backed up by hard data, that's verified, then its reasonable discussion.

Most importantly though, this whole scenario was widely predicted, and often dismissed, in lead up to this rules set. It's truly come home to roost as part of a pathetically inadequate control system to fulfill what !

The discussion, inevitable, media figures being squashed into positive distribution, who'd have thought it.

The warnings were loud, its here now, shouldn't be part of racing at this level.

There's plenty of individual interest avenue to discuss algorithm, it shouldn't have come to this in F1.
Not only the FIA made these rules with power starved cars, they added rules on how the power must be used.
"X" amount of throttle means "y" power at minimum.
So you end up with things like this...
Russell pressed the throttle in the wrong spot.
Did it make him lose the rear? No absolutely not :lol:
Instead something much worst happened, he wasted energy :x
De Wet wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 11:38
Chuckjr wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 10:19
Sevach wrote:
18 Jul 2026, 19:55
That's a lot of clipping, doesn't really look on edge anywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dytOOn0crB8
It is an abomination to the sport what is happening. They have the engine harvesting and prepping the corners for the drivers in the name of energy “recovery”. Whatever man. High speed corners are now just curved straights. Removal of ways to see the deployment only renders the abysmal fallacy they are attempting to hide. Pathetic. ](*,)

Drivers agree. Total Sh*tshow.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1101387/1 ... 20at%20Spa
Just awful.
And this time it's not just Verstappen and Alonso who are always eager to dump on something.

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It seems Russell just has to adapt to these rules then. Go lighter on pressing the throttle and lift off a bit when the car is going slightly downhill. Almost like driving in Eco mode in your street car!
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Sieper
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We should not want this. And for Max, to stick his neck out time after time for the truth. Only to get dumped on himself.

Ford ecoboost. What a Fiesta.

TimW
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Driving on the limit means tire slip and this wastes energy. Whether it is scrubbing speed in corners, or being less energy efficient in acceleration or under braking. Having straight line mode only amplifies the issue, because the drag penalty when deploying on the straights is less.

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This is so pathetic, they still trying to hide it out by blatantly removing speedometer from all the onboards on worldfeed. As if everybody wasn´t aware of what is going on already.

Not only they are disgustingly dishonest but also stupid.

jz11
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Artur Craft wrote:
19 Jul 2026, 14:01
This is so pathetic, they still trying to hide it out by blatantly removing speedometer from all the onboards on worldfeed. As if everybody wasn´t aware of what is going on already.

Not only they are disgustingly dishonest but also stupid.
audio is still there though, and those engines sound just sad...

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RonMexico
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Tough one for Russell, scratch that.
Last edited by RonMexico on 19 Jul 2026, 15:09, edited 2 times in total.

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Good move by Antonelli to let Verstappen through early, if this really was intentional

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Hadjar goes for the 0-stop strategy...

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Racing Incident and its a first lap incident so lets see what the stewards do here. George should've slotted behind Lewis and played the long game, this is not how you win the championship.