2026 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 24 - 26

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maxxer wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:23
gearboxtrouble wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:13
George was either engine or hydraulics/gearbox. They might be able to swap an existing pool engine without breaking parc ferme but if its something else he's starting from the pit lane.
First i thought he was low on fuel but i dont know if that counts in qually

Ah seen the interview it was a waterleak only
Water leak is a really broad term. A loose radiator connection is no big deal and it will be fine for the race because they can fix it for parc ferme. Anything internal on the engine and its either swap in an old PU from the pool or start from the pits.

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Artur Craft wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 18:23
mkay wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:16
Why are race threads so empty nowadays?
Racing has been degrading enourmously since Pirelli entered and DRS was introduced, both in 2011. F1 has been dying ever since. This year was just another big step in that direction. People are bored of phony position swapping and what not. That and other thing I´ll address below.
Mogster wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:33
mkay wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:16
Why are race threads so empty nowadays?
Traditional discussion forums seem to be dying a death. People are on Reddit, Discord, Twitter etc. It’s a shame as I prefer this format.
Those things are here for a long time. This year has been another brutal decrease in fan´s engagement with the series.
search wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:42
imo there just isn't much to discuss this year. Sometimes car a and driver b is quick, sometimes car c and driver d. And no one really knows why anyway.
Yup. Nobody know why car/driver combo is fast anymore. Is it due to better deployment software or is it due to a slower driver harvesting more energy and doing a faster laptime overall ?!

Everything became even more artificial. Tomorrow there will be some yoyo racing and the usual members will come here to tell how marvelous it is but most fans are drifting out from F1 since ages. (Just look at tv ratings on Germany, Italy, Finland, France, Brazil.... You can blame it on paywalls, people being more interested in social media these days and etc, but I also put some blame on fake, gimmicky racing
Hmm, depends on where you look, this is a technical forum, so general chit chatter is a no go, loads of discussions going on in places where you are allowed to talk about any thing.

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Penalty for Kimi so P7 now #-o

Sir LH also so P5

But at least they are on the clean side :roll:

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Provisional grid.

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mkay wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:16
Why are race threads so empty nowadays?
I have been here a few days and I can assure you the forums are nothing that they were when I started lurking in 2010. Since then, the really hard core guys have vaporized. The rift started in 2014 when Merc basically dropped the competition to two drivers, and it stayed that way for years, which killed the hearts of all the non-merc fans, spawning a lot of results that some feel were not merited, and that killed a lot of the integrity and fair competition that at one time strived within the basic framework of F1. Just check out the deterioration of the Ferrari forums from 2015 to 2018 compared to the glory days of 2010-2014.

I think what is doing it now more than anything is the PU formula, which really has compromised the integrity of the sport, cutting drivers skill sets from a lot of what they used to control, and which contributors of this site notice and appreciate. The untouchability of Merc for years, the blow up at the end of 2021, and now the absolute crap PU formula, have removed the sport integrity that at one time drew the hard core guys here. Many feel cheated. The FIA are not going to change the PU significantly for years to come, so we get a polished turd for racing, and hard cord dedicated forum contributors just are not going to waste their time on a sport that has fallen so far from authenticity. The current PU formula fundamentally compromises driver integrity in a number of ways, and is so complex nobody can understand it. These kind of fundamental flaws compromise competitive motivation in fans. It's like watching a bully punching everyone, and not being able to do anything about it. It's not very nice to watch. F1 is not so nice to watch right now, downright painful for old guys like me let me tell you.

Honestly, as a 40+ year die hard fan of this sport, it's hard to cheer for something that is now controlled by AI at some of the most fundamental levels of what should be entirely driver input alone. The slowing the car down anticipating upcoming corners so the driver does not even have to brake in med/high speed corners is one of the all time most shameful aspects this sport has ever justified, and to me, that kind of atrocity matters and has effect in forums like this where contributors are smart and notice when its just downright fakery.

It's hard to stay committed and spend time commenting on a sport whose owners don't give a $#it about racing integrity or honest driving. The sport is owned by Liberty Media who don't know what the hell they are doing so TV coverage is poor, far to choppy with camera shots confuse how to read the car, and "experts" covering the broadcast who are not good on camera, and don't know what the hell they are talking about because Liberty is not hiring them for their knowledge of the sport. So weekend TV coverage is downright cringy and embarrassing with clowns running the main coverage because Liberty media is trying to put on a show, not properly guide and cover a race weekend. Drivers are also now so censored they are hardly even worth listening to anymore. It's absolutely pathetic now.

So yea, basic sport integrity, lack of fair competition between drivers, dying hard core fan base that is being shown the door, an out of touch F1 leadership, a tyrannical F1 president, poor rule making, a bad and irrelevant and irresponsible self-defeating PU formula nobody can understand including the racing teams themselves all contribute to why forums like the one die. Places like Reddit and the like can get away with it with their low race IQ fan base, but not here.
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Chuckjr, brilliant post, brilliant! A shame I can´t upvote it here

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search wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:33
Tires left for tomorrow (tbc):

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This shows that Leclerc will start on the soft tire tomorrow. He has no choice. Hard would be suicide and 8 lap old medium would be suicide.
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This token lift and still trying to improve your time through yellows needs to stop before someone gets injured or worse. Good to see Kimi getting penalized when he lifted for the telemetry but still had a higher corner speed. How about changing the rules so that if you pass a yellow, the laps gets deleted? I believe Indycar has this rule.

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MB_Racer wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 20:42
Penalty for Kimi so P7 now #-o

Sir LH also so P5

But at least they are on the clean side :roll:
Net gain for Lewis in the championship fight if he can move forward quickly.
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AR3-GP wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 21:29
search wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:33
Tires left for tomorrow (tbc):

https://i.ibb.co/PG52qJ3L/hun.png
This shows that Leclerc will start on the soft tire tomorrow. He has no choice. Hard would be suicide and 8 lap old medium would be suicide.
Going by their quali strategy, I would think Ferrari planed to start on softs regardless. Although they would of course have prefered to save a new set.

On Friday the Pirelli guy said that the soft looked like the better race tire than medium, by the way. But that was at much colder conditions, of course.

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Artur Craft wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 21:26
Chuckjr, brilliant post, brilliant! A shame I can´t upvote it here
A real shame... Oh well erm. Should be a fun race tomorrow.
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search wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 23:46
AR3-GP wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 21:29
search wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:33
Tires left for tomorrow (tbc):

https://i.ibb.co/PG52qJ3L/hun.png
This shows that Leclerc will start on the soft tire tomorrow. He has no choice. Hard would be suicide and 8 lap old medium would be suicide.
Going by their quali strategy, I would think Ferrari planed to start on softs regardless. Although they would of course have prefered to save a new set.

On Friday the Pirelli guy said that the soft looked like the better race tire than medium, by the way. But that was at much colder conditions, of course.
That makes sense. So we will probably see everyone on softs at the start tomorrow. It's hard to overtake here and you can't afford to lose places off the line in "Monaco without walls". It will be interesting to see what they switch to in the 2nd stint. Tomorrow will be the hottest day of the weekend. Theres a crossover point where the hard tire becomes the worst tire because they slide too much on a hot track. The race would then favor the soft compound which can generate more mechanical grip in the heat. Counterintuitive, but it has happened before (Spain last year).
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Run long on medium and hope for safety car is also a good strategy. Track position is king here
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Chuckjr wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 21:00
mkay wrote:
25 Jul 2026, 17:16
Why are race threads so empty nowadays?
I have been here a few days and I can assure you the forums are nothing that they were when I started lurking in 2010. Since then, the really hard core guys have vaporized. The rift started in 2014 when Merc basically dropped the competition to two drivers, and it stayed that way for years, which killed the hearts of all the non-merc fans, spawning a lot of results that some feel were not merited, and that killed a lot of the integrity and fair competition that at one time strived within the basic framework of F1. Just check out the deterioration of the Ferrari forums from 2015 to 2018 compared to the glory days of 2010-2014.

I think what is doing it now more than anything is the PU formula, which really has compromised the integrity of the sport, cutting drivers skill sets from a lot of what they used to control, and which contributors of this site notice and appreciate. The untouchability of Merc for years, the blow up at the end of 2021, and now the absolute crap PU formula, have removed the sport integrity that at one time drew the hard core guys here. Many feel cheated. The FIA are not going to change the PU significantly for years to come, so we get a polished turd for racing, and hard cord dedicated forum contributors just are not going to waste their time on a sport that has fallen so far from authenticity. The current PU formula fundamentally compromises driver integrity in a number of ways, and is so complex nobody can understand it. These kind of fundamental flaws compromise competitive motivation in fans. It's like watching a bully punching everyone, and not being able to do anything about it. It's not very nice to watch. F1 is not so nice to watch right now, downright painful for old guys like me let me tell you.

Honestly, as a 40+ year die hard fan of this sport, it's hard to cheer for something that is now controlled by AI at some of the most fundamental levels of what should be entirely driver input alone. The slowing the car down anticipating upcoming corners so the driver does not even have to brake in med/high speed corners is one of the all time most shameful aspects this sport has ever justified, and to me, that kind of atrocity matters and has effect in forums like this where contributors are smart and notice when its just downright fakery.

It's hard to stay committed and spend time commenting on a sport whose owners don't give a $#it about racing integrity or honest driving. The sport is owned by Liberty Media who don't know what the hell they are doing so TV coverage is poor, far to choppy with camera shots confuse how to read the car, and "experts" covering the broadcast who are not good on camera, and don't know what the hell they are talking about because Liberty is not hiring them for their knowledge of the sport. So weekend TV coverage is downright cringy and embarrassing with clowns running the main coverage because Liberty media is trying to put on a show, not properly guide and cover a race weekend. Drivers are also now so censored they are hardly even worth listening to anymore. It's absolutely pathetic now.

So yea, basic sport integrity, lack of fair competition between drivers, dying hard core fan base that is being shown the door, an out of touch F1 leadership, a tyrannical F1 president, poor rule making, a bad and irrelevant and irresponsible self-defeating PU formula nobody can understand including the racing teams themselves all contribute to why forums like the one die. Places like Reddit and the like can get away with it with their low race IQ fan base, but not here.
You are right now we fans have to talk about budget caps, wind tunnel time, cfd are all capped.
It is formula one, not A1. let them develop bring new parts and if they dont have the budget they will either be slow or go bankrupt i don't care.
It is the pinnacle of motorsport and for me as a technical guy I rather see that then this silly hidden PU stuff we cant see how it works and the drivers don't know what it does.
Teams have very expensive wind tunnels and CFD equipment but they cant use it?

And one more edit this all started when Sky ports came into f1 and then liberty joined the party.
I hate the commentary of f1 tv if they want to cut costs they can leave leave a few of them home because i am so tired of hearing them talk all the time through every lap of someone just let me watch and i can see for myself what is happening

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
26 Jul 2026, 00:06
Run long on medium and hope for safety car is also a good strategy. Track position is king here
The medium is a terrible tyre. Similar degradation as the soft while being significantly slower (around 0.8s in qualy).

If Hamilton can jump Verstappen and Russell on lap 1, he is still in with a strong chance of a win.